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I find it absolutely [LIFTED] horrible, including the user interface. The Metro apps. also draw my ire, who wants to use "photo" on a desktop PC instead of Windows Photo Viewer?

you know you can still use windows photo viewer and if you want set it as the default action.

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Windows 8 is a disaster from a usability standpoint. Or more precisely, Win 8 makes perfect sense if you think that people use an OS because what they want to do is use an OS. Most of us use an OS because we want to get some task done: write an article, play a game, surf the Web, etc. The OS is in the background handling its required tasks, and it usually only presents itself when something has gone very wrong.

MS appears to think that people want to sit and stare at their desktops and admire the way they look. I’ve never known anyone where this was their primary usage, although I don’t doubt that MS focus groups were able to dig some up. Sadly, this appears to be a case of the Windows tail wagging the computer-user dog—MS sells Windows, and makes a lot of money doing so, therefore, Windows must be at the center of all your computer using-tasks.

I think he's totally missed the point of the metro screen (on a full PC) if you want to do work stuff, play a game (such as BF3 or whatever), write an article etc. nothing is stopping you. a simple click on the desktop tile and poof you are in an environment that is basically indistinguishable from a W7 environment.

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I signed up to an all-day event to be lectured at by MS evangelists, and I knew what I was in for. However, I thought it was reasonable to expect swag in return. Total haul: one ballpoint pen.
This says more about him, if they had given him loads of freebies im betting he would be saying that MS were trying to bribe him.

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They’re not allowing 99¢ apps. Apps are either free or have a minimum cost of $1.49. How many times have you found yourself saying, “Hey, it’s under a dollar, so why the hell not?” Developers, write off all those buyers.
actually never, For me the price point is over £5 (and it better have good reviews if I'm going to spend that on an app, although I will quite happily pay £30-£50 for a full game :lol: ), under that and i'll give it a go.

edit: Its sounding like im a rabid MS fanboy :o :shock: :lol:

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I think he's totally missed the point of the metro screen (on a full PC) if you want to do work stuff, play a game (such as BF3 or whatever), write an article etc. nothing is stopping you. a simple click on the desktop tile and poof you are in an environment that is basically indistinguishable from a W7 environment.

But you can't set it to go to that by default can you? Or can you?

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I think he's totally missed the point of the metro screen (on a full PC) if you want to do work stuff, play a game (such as BF3 or whatever), write an article etc. nothing is stopping you. a simple click on the desktop tile and poof you are in an environment that is basically indistinguishable from a W7 environment.

But you can't set it to go to that by default can you? Or can you?

Apparently yes

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I find it absolutely [LIFTED] horrible, including the user interface. The Metro apps. also draw my ire, who wants to use "photo" on a desktop PC instead of Windows Photo Viewer?

you know you can still use windows photo viewer and if you want set it as the default action.

Indeed you can, but it's both a pain to do it and the app. that's supposed to replace it is massively inferior.

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I put my PC into stand-by, after an hour or so, it automatically hibernates. Starting it back up again and within 1 second (stand-by) or about 8 seconds (hibernate), I am back at the desktop (excluding the time it takes to enter my password).

If I was on the desktop when I left the computer, I am on the desktop when I get back.

So far, I find it better than Windows 7 and the IFKAM start screen is much better than the start menu and offers more functionality. That said, my main applications are, as in Windows 7, pinned to the taskbar, so I probably need to go into the start menu on Windows 7 once a day, at most and the same should be true for Windows 8 - although I am experimenting a bit at the moment, so it is a little more often.

Also, most times I go to the Start Menu in W7, I hit the Windows key and start typing the name of the application I want to find, the same works in W8.

Multi-monitor support is also much better than under W7.

The Bing News app is actually very good. Nicely laid out and scales well on my notebook (15.6" 1920x1080 display).

So far, all of my hardware seems to work. I only needed 2 third party drivers, one for my memory card reader (from Sony); Windows informed me that it had found the device and actually sent me straight to the download link on the Sony website. The other was for my network scanner.

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It must be just me but the last Windows UI that I thought really worked well was XP. Ok it had some issues in terms of ease of doing some tasks but they didn't have to c*ck up everything else in an attempt to fix it.

Windows Vista, 7 and 8 have all been worse that their predecessors IMO.

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It must be just me but the last Windows UI that I thought really worked well was XP. Ok it had some issues in terms of ease of doing some tasks but they didn't have to c*ck up everything else in an attempt to fix it.

Windows Vista, 7 and 8 have all been worse that their predecessors IMO.

Windows XP was loathed, when it came out. It took nearly 2 years, before sales started to take off...

And it was XP that drove me to Linux, I came back to using Windows regularly with Vista, it was way better - they seemed to have learnt a lot of lessons from Linux and OS X over time and Vista was much more usable.

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I find it absolutely [LIFTED] horrible, including the user interface. The Metro apps. also draw my ire, who wants to use "photo" on a desktop PC instead of Windows Photo Viewer?

you know you can still use windows photo viewer and if you want set it as the default action.

Indeed you can, but it's both a pain to do it and the app. that's supposed to replace it is massively inferior.

a pain?
press window key
start to type default (default programs shows up as second choice after typing de YMMV)
click on that
choose windows photo viewer as default for photos
forget and enjoy
A once only action

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When I opened a photo, I just selected Windows Photo Viewer and said it should be the default.

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When I opened a photo, I just selected Windows Photo Viewer and said it should be the default.

Trust you to find an even easier route :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I find 7 to be the best yet but in terms of the 'average user experience', if there is such a thing, it's basically a skinned XP to my mind :)

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Upgrading to Windows 8 has saved me around 40GB of disk space over Windows 7.

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Upgrading to Windows 8 has saved me around 40GB of disk space over Windows 7.


Out of curiosity is that an actual saving or would you have acheived something similar if you'd done a clean install of 7?
I tend to find that if I do a clean install I'm a lot more picky about the applications and add ons that get installed again afterwards so tend to end up with a much more compact system than was previously the case (at least initially).

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When I opened a photo, I just selected Windows Photo Viewer and said it should be the default.

Trust you to find an even easier route :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's what I was doing before, you have to do it for each and every file type which is...cumbersome.

It would be easier if you could:

1) Get windows 8 to boot straight to the desktop
2) Tell it to ignore the Metro apps. completely

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