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ProfessorF
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Anna Dubuis Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:37 PM
Mothers with foetuses detected to have Down’s syndrome and other disabilities should be forced into a compulsory abortion, according to a UKIP candidate’s ‘personal manifesto’.
Geoffrey Clark, who is running in a by-election on Thursday (20) for the Gravesham Rural seat on Kent County Council and the Meopham North seat on Gravesham Borough Council, was labelled ‘abhorrent’ by disability charities and parents.
His ideas, published on his website, state: “Consider compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Downs, Spina Bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, will render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family.”
He also wants free euthanasia for the over-80s.
Andrew Diedo, from Dartford, whose 27-year-old son Chris has Down’s syndrome, said Mr Clark’s view was “perhaps born out of fear and ignorance”.
He said: “Our son with Down’s syndrome enjoys a full, happy and productive life. Anyone who knows him will agree with me that the world is a far richer place because of him.”
Disability charity Mencap’s chief executive, Mark Goldring, said he was “disgusted and shocked” at the manifesto.
“It is abhorrent that Geoffrey Clarke sees disabled people solely as a burden. We question if he is fit for public office,” he said.
Liz Woodward, chief executive of DGSM Your Choice, a learning disability charity in Kent, said: “Someone with Down’s syndrome can now live a life like anyone else in the community. We find the manifesto disappointing and disturbing.”
Mr Clark told the Reporter: “They are a burden on the state. The NHS is no longer affordable and some services have to be cut. I’m tired of politicians saying we should cut managers.”
A UKIP spokesman defended Mr Clark’s right to opinions not in line with the party’s.
He said: “The comments in Geoff Clark’s personal manifesto regarding abortion do not represent party policy. As in any party, our members have a range of views and opinions which may not always accord with party policy. Geoff makes clear that this is a personal manifesto, not a party document. Geoff is a hard-working local activist who would make an excellent councillor.” |  |  |  |  |
http://www.gravesendreporter.co.uk/news/exclusive_compulsory_abortion_for_down_s_syndrome_foetuses_says_ukip_kent_candidate_1_1745952
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:27 am |
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pcernie
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And they were doing so well!
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:11 am |
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JohnSheridan
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Sounds more like a manifesto leaflet from the Nazi's back in the 1930's
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:44 pm |
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brataccas
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thats what I was thinking, hitler kept not normal people though 
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Amnesia10
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And so Cameron was right to describe them as closet racists, now we can add closet cleansers, starting with the disabled.
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:10 pm |
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paulzolo
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I have always maintained that UKIP were dangerous, possibly more so than the BNP, as they are quite happy to hide their true plans behind a velvet curtain of respectability. With the BNP, you at least know where you stand. With UKIP, they are clearly eugeniscists in disguise.
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Amnesia10
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The problem is that so many here are now anti EU that we will suffer if we exit the EU completely. You only have to read some of the comments by many Daily Telegraph to realise that they are a very close minded group and treat those on benefits as scroungers and scum and call them breeders, and that you should not have a child unless you can afford it. Though in many parts of the world children are their pension. The fact that the Daily Telegraph seems to be read by UKIP members might explain a lot.
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Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:23 pm |
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pcernie
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-20813977He still came second! You might not agree with Nickel Forage keeping him in the party, but he's right about how much support they're gaining from the Tories and others.
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:14 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Well extremist parties across Europe are gaining support because of the failure of the main parties. UKIP are clearly an extremist party pretending to be a moderate party.
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l3v1ck
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Why don't they just stick to their anti- European state message? They'll never get vote when they come out with comments worthy of the republican party.
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:51 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but the republicans still did pretty well in the US even allowing for the idiots that they tried to get elected.
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:44 pm |
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jonlumb
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Forced abortion is pretty much a polar opposite of a Republican policy...
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:50 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Scarily, despite all their xenophobic, pro-eugenic rhetoric, people are still willing to vote for them in order to spite the Tories. With rather tells us a bit about a lot of Tory voters.
Can anyone think of a European political party in the last century that espoused eugenics, and took a somewhat xenophobic approach to their neighbours, and rose to power off the back of an economic downturn?
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:52 pm |
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jonbwfc
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The communist party in Russia in 1917?
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:07 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Yeah, but that's the American electorate. And even the republicans turf out candidates who say that sort of thing. Forced abortion.... Hitler would be proud.
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:59 pm |
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