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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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A rather geeky statistic that really made me smile. PNG can be advantageous over GIF in many circumstances, but as a relative newcomer it's great to see it become so widely accepted so quickly! http://w3techs.com/blog/entry/the_png_i ... r_than_gif
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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If it's just a logo, I still use gif (when appropriate over jpeg) just to keep ie6 users happy, but if alpha transparency is required, I use png and ie6 can go hang.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:34 am |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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In all honesty, I never intentionally started to use PNG. It was only after downloading pictures from websites did I realise some were in PNG format. It was only in the past year, when I was redesigning our intranet site did I realise the advantages of PNG. The quality/compression ratio won it out over and above the other file formats.
_________________ He fights for the users.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:29 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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There are things you can do to make IE6 display PNGs with alpha transparency, but it’s dependent on the host OS to be able to do this. I think Window 95 and Windows NT4 are the culprits here.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:49 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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There's a JavaScript that does it too, but unless I'm specifically asked to, I don't bother with ie6 support.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:46 pm |
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Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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JavaScript is also an outgoing tech. Though I rarely see gifs, and png is rarer still at the sites that I visit. jpeg is the format that I see most of all.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:38 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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There's an HTC file that does a far better job, and you don't see a flicker when the page loads. To be honest, I don't give a toss about IE6 anymore. The app I use for web design does what it can for IE6 compatibility, so it just happens for me. I don't go out of my way to support it. As LNG as things degrade gracefully, I'm OK about it.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:00 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Really? I thought JavaScript was still going strong!
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:37 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Confusing Java and JavaScript, methinks. Schoolboy error.
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:39 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Ah yes, that would make sense!
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:57 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Yes that might be my mistake.  I do not have Java or javascript enabled on my machines.
_________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Without JavaScript, you can't use a majority of websites these days.
_________________ "Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:37 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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Javascript is growing rapidly, along with HTML5. Client side Java may well die, in no small part down to security issues. A fact I personally find annoying, because Java is lovely to program in while I find Javascript quite hideous. 
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:35 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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If ind JavaScript a pain as it can be so loose. I've learnt quite a bit of php, but I only bother with JavaScript occasionally when I need it for something specific. For example the other day I need it for a form that worked out the price based on the quantity.
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Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:45 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Well one market research website I get directed to says that I need Javascript enabled. It is enabled in my preferences, but does not work. Hence my assumption that it was not installed. Some websites are stretched out because there is no javascript like T3. Though most websites I visit are not impacted at all.
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