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Who's adding DRM to HTML5? Microsoft, Google and Netflix
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paulzolo
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:21 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I hope that they fail.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:39 pm |
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big_D
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It is catch 22, the public are.fed up with Flash, the press calls it, rightly, a security nighmare and they want to "just use html5." What do you expect? No publisher is going to release their media in html5 if they can't protect it. There is also a big difference between old DRM and what is now done. I use a lot of services, which use DRM, but if I didn't know about it from the media, I would never guess that it is protected, it just works - Kindle and Audible being two examples. I am fine with unobtrusive drm, if it means I can access the media how and when I want, as opposed to it not being available. Edit: I just realised, I am starting to sound like Gareth! 
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:10 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I do agree that there needs to be something to allow DRM to be used. Though I suspect that each company is trying to get their own proprietary DRM solution to replace flash. The problem for DRM is that it drives customers away, if not handled seamlessly. Though will any media company will probably not accept an open source version.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:42 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Agreed. If they're going to include DRM in a standard, it sould be: A) One sort or DRM, not several types B) Open to all without having to pay licensing etc.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:25 pm |
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Linux_User
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As long as it's completely cross-platform I'm game. Silverlight is an ugly solution to streaming media, I'd take HTML5 with DRM any day provided it runs on devices which don't happen to be made by Microsoft et al.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:00 pm |
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big_D
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I think we will end up with the same situation as video. H.264 is the best and is the native format for nearly every video camera and mobile phone on the market these days, but the browser maker has to pay a licence fee, so only Safari and IE support it, whilst Chrome supports Google's bought in codec WebM and Opera and Firefox support Ogg Theroa.
WebM is getting crossover into Firefox, ISTR, but MS and Apple won't touch it and Mozilla and Google won't touch H.264.
To be honest, I've never understood Google. If WebM is so good, why don't they use it themselves? Given the adoption of Android, if they had included WebM recording as the default on Android, it would have given Google and the Chrome browser a big boost.
If Android supported WebM, you could post the video straight to the web and play it back on Chrome or Firefox. As it is, the video is recorded in H.264, which Google explicitly don't like and won't support in Chrome! If they are paying for the H.264 licence for Android, why not include it in Chrome? They pay a flat fee every year past a certain number of products. Or drop the H.264 licence totally and use WebM.
Without native WebM recording support in cameras, it will never break into the market big time. At the moment, you (typical businesses and home users) record in lossy H.264, then you have to convert the lossy picture into another lossy format, WebM, in order for it to meet Google's idea of the perfect web codec, losing more image quality in the process... Dumb.
Back on topic, if you look at Kindle, Audible, iOS and Android, they all use DRM, but generally the user doesn't notice. They download it onto their device and it works. All iOS and most Android apps are DRMed, but it "just works". One of the main reasons a lot of people jailbreak iOS devices is so that they can use DRM free apps, so they don't have to pay the developer for them.
Likewise, for Audible and Kindle, for the normal user, they don't notice that they are protected, they download them to their Kindle, tablet, PC, or smartphone and they just work with the supplied app. It is, generally, only those that want to get the books for free that complain about the DRM.
Okay, I ran into the max device limit on Audible last week and had to deauthorise some devices, it took a few seconds - I had my old iPhone, my PC, my iMac, my old htc Sensation, my WP7 phone, my old Galaxy SIII, my new Galaxy SIII (warranty replacement), an MP3 player and I wanted to install the Windows 8 app. The W8 app told me it couldn't authorise, so I removed some of the old devices.
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:36 am |
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Amnesia10
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I think that many want to edit their movies so unless there is a WebM editing program it has its limits.
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