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Findus beef lasagne contained up to 100% horsemeat
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big_D
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We often cook for 3 or 4 days, even with 4 people in the house. But the daughters don't like that, after the second day, they tend to cook packet soup or similar for themselves, when they get home.
We eat a lot of salad and vegetables. We mainly eat a big, cooked meal at the weekend, then have it re-warmed on Monday and Tuesday and the rest of the week is then mainly bread, salad vegetables and sliced meat, mainly because I get home around 7 and we go to bed just after 8, so cooking isn't usually an option during the week.
Not being able to eat much meat (I can't digest pork, beef, lamb etc.) and now having problems with Gluten, what I can eat is severely limited, which means I must pretty much always eat fresh. Most pre-packaged meals have gluten in them, for example.
I was surprised, we have a warm-menu at work, where we can chose from over 150 meals - we order a about 10 different dishes per 2 weeks. I went through the catalogue and from complete card, there were 4 meals which I could eat.
I'd keep seeing things like "chicken curry with rice," and think, "that's good," then read the ingredients, chicken, spices, rice, so far so good, then soya sauce, also good, with flour! WTF? Why do you need to put flour in the soya sauce?!!?!?
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:42 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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I share similar frustrations. My sister was recently diagnosed as coeliac's and it's a nightmare some times. Flour I think is used as a thickening agent. I'm surprised there's gluten in various guises in things like ice-cream, pasta sauce and other things you wouldn't expect it to turn up in. We also have to be careful with cross-contamination so she has her own crockery and cutlery, and her own dedicated pots and pans. We also have supplies of gluten-free food for when she comes home to visit.
As for ready meals, they can be entirely useful. I sometimes finish work late and have to face more work so ready meals can sometimes be a boon. As for cooking, I've always cooked for two days' worth of food. The problem is you end up wasting some ingredients unless you can think of new ways to reuse them.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:30 am |
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steve74
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OK, cynic mode on: Anyone else think this is mainly a PR exercise for the FSA to reassure the public that they're more than a spineless body (hmm, bad choice of words!)? Today they've rolled out various FSA spokespeople on the news spouting nonsense that this proves that their tracing and scientific procedures work in keeping the food industry safe and regulated. Erm, if that were true, then this whole sorry episode wouldn't have happened in the first place. I'm not suggesting that these slaughterhouses weren't up to no good, just seems very convenient this comes to light when the FSA is under pressure to prove they can actually enforce their guidelines and be proactive in their investigations. Talk about bolting the stable door...
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:40 am |
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Amnesia10
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It might not be that way. Until now it was always an overseas problem so they could push the UK origins as an alternative. Now that is not longer viable. This now is shown to be a UK failure as well. This looks bad for the FSA, not like a coverup right now.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:32 am |
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jonbwfc
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Everything I've heard from the FSA made them sound more like a representative for the processed food industry rather than any sort of consumer protection/regulation body. They've got a big case of Stockholm Syndrome by the sound of it. Guy from Morrisons was on the radio during my drive into work, he was going very big on how they have very strict practices around meat - all the cuts of meat they sell are from British farms and they have an ongoing inspection & certification process. He couldn't be as sure about processed foods, although all their manufacturing is UK based. OK. it's them putting their best face on it but if they've been doing the right thing while the rest have been cutting corners, you kind of have to give them an 'I told you so' moment. It comes down to one thing : if you buy the ingredients, you know what's in it. If you buy a pre-packed dish, you don't. Jon
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:04 am |
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Amnesia10
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I do agree with that. Though if we all did that there would be a massive fall out in the food processing industry and that could cost millions of jobs. I think my local butcher is doing well from the fall out.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:28 pm |
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Linux_User
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I disagree - unless you slaughter the animal yourself you're trusting the label. If you buy your meat from a butcher then you're trusting what the butcher tells you...
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:58 pm |
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jonbwfc
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The butcher I buy from has been in the same shop since.. well he and his family have been running it since at least 1974, when my family first started buying from the now-retired father of the current proprietor. For any given piece of meat he can tell you which farm the beast it used to be part of came from because he has records and it's all local, so people can go and check if they like. OK logically it's not the same as putting the boltgun to the cow's head yourself, but he lives or dies by quality and reputation much more than say Tesco's own brand spag bol does. If he was dodgy, he wouldn't still be around.
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:18 pm |
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Amnesia10
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At least the butcher could tell me how the mince is made, and where it comes from. Now I make my own mince from beef shin. So I know that there is no horse in it. The problem with supermarkets as we are discovering is that they have ridiculously long supply chains. If you do not trust your local butcher then you better become a vegetarian. 
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:28 pm |
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big_D
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As well as Kaiser's Tengelmann, now Rewe and Edeka have pulled products and the state of Nordrhein Westfallen has announced that they have confiscated products from shelves and will be testing them, when they have been defrosted.
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:19 am |
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Amnesia10
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I was listening to a BBC podcast and there was a story about the Irish and their horses. When Ireland was booming they rushed out and bought horses like fashion accessories. Though when the economy crashed they could not afford to keep them. The sale price of horses in Ireland crashed and they were bought up by dealers. Some 70 000 horses left Ireland and are suspected as one of the major reasons for the proliferation in the food industry. In Romania they recently banned the use of horse carts on the roads and that apparently has lead to there horses ending up in pies.
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:31 am |
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big_D
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Lidl and Aldi are now affected over here. Tinned goulash and ravioli are causing the problems there.
Metro, Rewe, Edeka and a frozen food storage company have all had products removed for testing. Mainly frozen Lasagne, but also these tinned goods now.
This could cause a boom for one of the products we brought to market last year.
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:03 am |
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Paul1965
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Anyone else noticed that Quorn have stepped up their advertising lately?
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:02 am |
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JJW009
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No bull? Quorn? Or possibly personal DNA testing kits 
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:05 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Well Lidl could rebrand their meat as My Lidl Pony. 
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