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Amnesia10
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:15 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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It's tragic that people need classes to teach them simple cooking. I can only guess they were raised on junk food, ready meals and eating out. By the third generation, real food is going to be completely alien to them.
My mum wasn't a good cook, but I learned the basics by "helping" her in the kitchen when I was small. I could probably have made something simple like lasagne with salad or a roast diner when I was 10. I certainly knew how to read a cook book by then; there were loads of them in the house.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:10 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Many here probably had the opportunity to learn from their mum when they were younger, because many did not work. Nowadays that is the exception and most parents are working all hours so they literally only show them how to put the ready meal into the oven or microwave. As for schools didn't most pull the ovens out of schools for various reason including cost and health and safety.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:07 pm |
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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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My mum is a great cook, but she never taught me. I learnt from a combination of watching her and books, delia smith's complete cookery course being chief among them. It does help that I love good food and was brought up on it, otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:29 pm |
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tombolt
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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My mum also worked by the way, food has just always been important in my family.
Also, my wife and I both work and still find time to cook, but again it's important to us. I chose to ditch going to the gym in the evenings rather than a good meal.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:30 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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It doesn't surprise me that people need classes. University was a big eye opener for many people and certainly I knew had to learn how to cook for the first time. What was surprising was that quite a few were girls - more than I'd expect.
I didn't really bother learning to cook until the summer before I left for uni. Whilst I didn't learn everything, I certainly learnt how to make the simpler things. Even now, I'm willing to cook things for the first time and because of what I already know, it usually comes out reasonably well.
I don't know about others but when all my siblings come home, we get together and make something new and unusual each day. Normally the bbc goodfood website has some awesome stuff.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:34 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Poppycock, Amnesia.
My mother brought us up on her own, after she left my father. She worked as a personnel director for an oil exploration company and still managed to find time to cook fresh meals every evening. Yes, we had to cater for ourselves during the holidays, but our grandparents would look after us, when we were younger, after 14 or so, we would make our own lunch.
Okay, she taught us at an early age to cook, iron and clean the house and we would help in the kitchen and do the washing up.
It is just laziness and convenience that drives people to use ready meals. They'd rather watch East Enders or Corrie than spend time cooking a fresh meal.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:27 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I know that many of us would cite examples of a working single parent doing the cooking but that is not the case for everyone.
My mum would cook but when she went back to college we had to do our own cooking. It was not hard. We had being brought up to help so it was not too much of a stretch to do more. I think that the presence of an easy option in ready meals makes people lazy.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:40 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I have to agree with Dave. People buy & eat ready meals because they can. If people didn't have access to ready meals and needed to cook their own food, they'd almost certainly find the time to do so rather than go hungry. Starvation is a great motivator. The fact is there are plenty of reasonable meals that take less than half an hour to prepare and eat and almost everyone has half an hour spare in their day. If they don't have even half an hour, where do they find the time to eat the stuff they are preparing - albeit by putting it in a microwave for five minutes? Ready meals are a convenience, not a necessity.
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Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:42 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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I used to have regular meals frequently at one point. This was when I changed jobs and my nightshifts switched from either Mon-Thu or Fri-Sun to just seven nights in a row. By the time I came home, I was too knackered to cook (I would have fallen straight to sleep if I didn't eat quickly). This would only deteriorate towards the end (where it was probably unsafe for me to even drive let alone cook or work).
A few ready meals in the freezer and I could cook one whilst getting changed, maybe a wash etc, eat and then sleep.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:45 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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My mum is employed by the health service as a food educator - walking groups of people through simple cookery lessons.
Her main targets are elderly people who have lost a spouse (who did most of the cooking) and new/young mums, although not limited to just those groups. It's all about varied recipes that are healthy, easy to make and inexpensive. There are seemingly plenty of people who have never prepared a meal from scratch, who live off ready meals and frozen pre-prepared veg. Christ knows why - frozen veg is bloody awful, and ready meals are two lies for the price of one.
Mum has commented to me, more than once, on the uncomprehending looks she gets from some people when she hands them an onion, or basically any raw vegetable; so there is a real lack of knowledge out there - incredible as it seems.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:56 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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Actually that's something I've found too. I have patients who have lost their wives and they were never used to learning how to cook or do household chores. All of a sudden, they're having to learn new things at once which can be difficult and daunting especially around the time of bereavement. So a service that teaches people how to cook is excellent IMO.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:26 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Frozen veg can be useful. I use them in my chilli's. It is easier to use frozen veg when you only need a small quantity. Though I mainly use fresh veg and keep the frozen for emergencies.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:35 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Yeah, I exaggerated a little - we use frozen peas and frozen sweetcorn and occasionally frozen chips. My main gripe is for the likes of frozen broccoli, cauliflower, green beans and cabbage etc.. all of which are bloody awful and are almost tasteless. Those frozen veg steam bags aren't as bad, but still not a patch on fresh veg.
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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:53 am |
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Amnesia10
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I think that the advantage of frozen caulilower is that you do not have any waste. I have now mastered microwave cauliflower cheese and while it is tastier doing it fresh there is also the issue of waste. You also have to prepare it quickly before it rots. That is not an issue for frozen cauli. They have their purposes. Some are better than others. By having a decent supply of frozen veg I can cope with the odd week being snowed in.
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