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Working for myself? - Advice needed!
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John_Vella
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Thanks blue, and good bless Notepad ++!
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:03 pm |
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saspro
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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Nice.
You need to move the anchors to a little lower sos the headings are at the top of the screen and there are a few errors in the copy but looking much better
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:05 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I just tried the website on my Mac and iPad, both worked well, though rather than put prices on display, why not have a contact us for pricing button? If you have prices up you might have to keep changing them, and if someone contacts you then you have the option of cutting prices during a quiet spell without alerting everyone to a price cut.
Have you tried the idea of maybe lower starting prices with an ongoing maintenance deal, for security and hosting etc. The eCommerce option should make it clear that above 30 products alternative deals could be an option.
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:34 pm |
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AlunD
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sorry not meaning to be nasty but .......... Way tooooooo much scrolling CSS has 85 errors HTML only 2 errors seriously impressed Really don’t like the pages rolling up / down strongly advise not to put prices on site as per amnesia's comment. good luck I really hope it works for you.
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:01 pm |
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John_Vella
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Prices? Yeah, might be an idea to shift them. CSS? Thinking about the look and feel at the moment, and I went a bit crazy with the css earlier but I will look at that when I turn on the PC next. I'm on the mobile and can't remember the other points but I'll be reading them when I look at the site next, so will be able to reply with more detail. Thanks again and please do continue with the feedback.  Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:58 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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As above, too much scrolling, but generally much better.
One thing that came up this week with one of our partners, they are testing a new layout and they have a design which works on smartphones, tablets and desktop. What they hadn't taken into account is that Windows tablets don't appear any different to desktop pcs in their headers. The site worked fine on Android and iOS and it worked fine on Windows with a mouse. But the desktop design used the hover CSS functionality to display drop down menus on the desktop layout. With Windows on a touch screen, there is no way to however! So there was no way to call up the sub-menus and the menus weren't accessible any other way.
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:23 pm |
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Amnesia10
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If you can find that many errors chances are that a potential client could as well if using tools to scan web pages. The final web page needs to be as error free as possible as it is also an example of johns coding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:09 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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As long as a site has to support IE6 and IE7, it will never be error free! You need to put in some non-standard code to cope with the way they work. The site will work fine, but a scanner will still report errors.
You can make it better by detecting the browser in PHP and choosing a different CSS file, but that means maintaining 2 complete CSS layouts. More common is to have an IE directive to load a second CSS file with the hacks. Other browsers ignore the IE directives, but they still get reported as errors on validators, as far as I can remember.
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:48 am |
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tombolt
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They don't get reported as errors as they're in comments.
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:49 am |
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John_Vella
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Latest update: The html and CSS files are now reporting no errors! There are some CSS warnings, due to the unknown vendor issue, which is well known, so I'm not concerned about that at the moment... Simon, The only problem with moving the heading up is that it screws up the view on smaller devices. I'll have another look at that after some more coffee... You said a few errors in the copy? Could you elaborate please? It's probably something blindingly obvious, but I'm damned if I can see it...  The prices are now gone. Mrs. V. agreed, so it must have been valid!
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:52 am |
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saspro
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:34 pm |
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John_Vella
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Ouch! Must learn to proof read... Twice! : lol: Thanks Simon. I'll change that when I switch on the PC next.
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:21 pm |
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John_Vella
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Edit to add: I know about the filter text. I had left that in as I was testing something else as well but that will be either edited or removed. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:43 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Actually, it's very hard to proof read your own copy. You become blind to it after a while. The only reliable way is to let several people read it for you. (I learned that the hard way, when I worked in a printer's studio that had an ex-Fleet Street reader as part of the team. Many happy hours were spent discussing heartily the merits of apostrophes, en- and em-dashes, when to use a semi-colon and so on.)
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:41 am |
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Amnesia10
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