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Paul1965
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:29 pm Posts: 5975
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From the BBC: I remember seeing the Philpotts on TV asking for witnesses and information from the public and thinking "They did it." I assumed it was to get a bigger council house but it looks like he wanted custody of his kids to get more benefit money too. More here.
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steve74
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:43 pm Posts: 1798 Location: Manchester
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Scum of the earth... I don't understand why the jury weren't told of this earlier incident. Surely, that's as relevant to this attack in showing his true character. I pity the remaining children left to pick up the pieces.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:22 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but how would he get a fair trial if this was known by the jury. Many people would have found him guilty without considering any more evidence. Also what if someone was genuinely innocent, but had a past. Many people do go through difficult times of their lives when they do all sorts of things does not mean he was guilty. Yes and the rest of the family (who will be looking for a bigger council house and more benefits /s)
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:30 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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They knew of violence in some capacity
Jurors heard that Philpott had been violent and controlling towards his former live-in mistress, Lisa Willis.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:33 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Just watching Channel 4 News and finding out that he had been on Jeremy Kyle Show.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:09 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I'm still surprised they weren't done for murder. The act of starting the fire was deliberate rather than accidental after all.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:06 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Murder is premeditation to kill. That was not the intention. So manslaughter charges are appropriate. They could still get life.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:34 pm |
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JohnSheridan
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Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:10 pm Posts: 1057
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Hanging's too good for them - pity we don't have it though.
Six kid's lives cut short because of their parents greed.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:37 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I hope they get life with a very very long minimum sentence.
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Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:44 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Same here. They really should have thought it through and stopped.
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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By the sound of things, they haven't ever thought a single thing through their entire lives.
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Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:57 am |
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Amnesia10
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I have seen professionals do the same thing at work. Failure to think things through is a lot more widespread than should be the case. Look at the numbers of politicians who make policy and statements and then have to rapidly backtrack. I think it is down to arrogance. They do not think that they will caught or are wrong.
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Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:21 am |
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Paul1965
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Update: Derby fire deaths: Philpotts and Mosley jailed
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Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:28 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
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That's less than three years per child. It should have been a minimum of thirty years in my opinion. I'd have preferred life without parole though.
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Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:53 pm |
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steve74
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:43 pm Posts: 1798 Location: Manchester
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I'm guessing, because they were charged with manslaughter rather than murder, that 15 years is the maximum they can be sentenced to? I was hoping he'd get a life sentence, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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