| Author |
Message |
|
JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm
Posts: 8767
Location: behind the sofa
|
The same argument could be used for any medical treatment. First answer the question "Saving me will benefit society at large because..." Wrong answer, one way ticket to the medical incinerator. However, most people find it tasteless for anyone to exercise such power of choosing life or death for another. Not saving someone when you have the facility to do so is equivalent to killing them. Although of course we do it all the time. Most deaths could be delayed by spending millions or billions of pounds, but most people have their own opinion of what is a reasonable cost/benefit ratio. _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
|
| Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:18 am |
 
|
|
|
TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm
Posts: 4955
Location: on the naughty step
|
That's an issue I really struggle with. In one hand we have children benefit (AKA children are useful to society) then we are a really overcrowded island. There is also the mental issues that women who can't conceive experience, especially when most women without children get nagged about it.
|
| Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:17 am |
|
|
|
Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
|
I was being facetious. I support the principle of Cancer treatment even though only one (60 cigarettes a day smoker) of my family has ever had Cancer, so it is not like I have a vested interest. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
|
| Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:04 am |
|
|
|
l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am
Posts: 12700
Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
|
There are plenty of children who need adopting. I wonder (as I really have no idea) how many children need homes and how many people get IVF every year. Do the numbers come close to matching?
|
| Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:19 pm |
|
|
|
Zippy
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm
Posts: 3838
Location: Here Abouts
|
Adopting is really hard! I've looked into it in the past as I'm unable to have children the way nature intended and it seems to be massively expensive and horridly complicated. I can see why people would choose IVF over adoption frankly!
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
|
| Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:02 am |
|
|
|
Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
|
+1 Also if you are above a certain age social services will not allow you to adopt anyway. So IVF is the only solution by then. It might actually be cheaper than adoption as well. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
|
| Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:18 am |
|
|
|
TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm
Posts: 4955
Location: on the naughty step
|
and from what I understand, services are reluctant to let family adopt for a fairly long time, and couples become carers instead for years. They must also give right to visit to the family if they request it, regardless of how good or bad their influence will be on the child. If you smoke, you want be suitable, if both parents work, they won't be suitable either.There are many hurdles and hoops to be jump through. Also, at least in some London boroughs, they try to match the ethnic background of the child to the parents, which makes it even more difficult.
|
| Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:25 am |
|
|
|
Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
Posts: 29240
Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
|
There have been a lot of problems where they have seized kids under dubious circumstances and then adopted the kids very rapidly, thereby totally destroying the chances of the child being returned to the parents. There was a family who had a history of brittle bones having their kids seized claiming abuse. It was nothing of the sort but the family have lost the right to see or contact their own children because of the way that Family court operates and the accusatory nature of social services.
_________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
|
| Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:31 am |
|
|
|
JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm
Posts: 8767
Location: behind the sofa
|
It always seems daft that kids who really need a home can't be placed in the same home where any number of children might be born... _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
|
| Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:49 pm |
|
|
