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If they do exist they probably look bacteria.

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If they do exist they probably look bacteria.

How unusual. That slide show works on every browser including my old Android phone, except in Firefox the pictures are all chopped in half.

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Amnesia10 wrote:

If they do exist they probably look bacteria.

How unusual. That slide show works on every browser including my old Android phone, except in Firefox the pictures are all chopped in half.

They were chopped in half in Safari on my iMac as well.

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America! [LIFTED] YEAH!

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/12/1860101/gop-congressman-if-babies-had-guns-they-wouldnt-be-aborted/


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Isn't that like saying 'if small countries had nukes, America wouldn't attack them?'

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America! [LIFTED] YEAH!

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/12/1860101/gop-congressman-if-babies-had-guns-they-wouldnt-be-aborted/


I'm not going to quote the piece, the URL tells you what you need to know, but please click through.

Clearly he has not thought this through. No wonder they are the stupid party.


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A purely theoretical set of questions, completely unrelated to my workplace and/or manager. ;)

Q1: I sell a product, let's call it product A.

Product A consists of several parts, let's call them B, C and D. In this instance they are always sold as a single unit, even though they are components.

Therefore A = BCD (see what I did there?)

Now occasionally people decide to buy item E in addition and swap it with item D. Item E is similar to item D, but they can't be used in conjunction. Now in my theoretical question, if someone pays full price for item A and also purchases item E, should they also receive item D? I'll be specific here and say that item E is not an option/upgrade, customers would be paying full retail on Item A and E.

Q2+3: I sell two different items. Each one is bought wholseale with an accessory, the cost of which is insignificant to the purchase price. These items are theoretically sold at full retail without the accessory. Is something being committed here?

What I'm looking for in answers is whether something is legal/illegal, and the correct terminology, i.e. fraud or otherwise.

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Q1 Surely if they're paying for part A, you have to give them part D or part A isn't actually part A at all.

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Ok, I'll try to explain it better.

Let's call Item A a computer package consisting of B=main computer, C=keyboard and D=monitor. Item A costs 1000 groats.

A customer buys item A (BCD) but also wants item E=larger widescreen monitor. Item E costs 500 groats.

Customer hands over 1500 groats and receives item A (B +C) and E, but not item D.


Think of it as an upgrade option, but one for which they are paying full price for, and not receiving the original part that they have also paid for. They have a perfectly usable product, but are unaware that they may have paid for something they haven't received.

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Think of it as an upgrade option, but one for which they are paying full price for, and not receiving the original part that they have also paid for. They have a perfectly usable product, but are unaware that they may have paid for something they haven't received.

I would say if you actually offer part D as a separate item (maybe as a spare/replacement part) then you should in fairness offer some discount on A+E as you can make that back selling D on it's own later. If you don't sell that part separately, you would be left with an item you can't get rid of which has already cost you money to source, so in that case it would be legitimate to charge the full cost of A+E.


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belchingmatt wrote:
Ok, I'll try to explain it better.

Let's call Item A a computer package consisting of B=main computer, C=keyboard and D=monitor. Item A costs 1000 groats.

A customer buys item A (BCD) but also wants item E=larger widescreen monitor. Item E costs 500 groats.

Customer hands over 1500 groats and receives item A (B +C) and E, but not item D.


Think of it as an upgrade option, but one for which they are paying full price for, and not receiving the original part that they have also paid for. They have a perfectly usable product, but are unaware that they may have paid for something they haven't received.

What you would have if you wanted E is that you pay a differential price so that you get A made up of BC and E, the price charged for A would clearly be equivalent of B+C without D, which would be lower than A alone. Alternatively they could charge less for E but on the condition that it was bought with A (BC). If they charge full price for both then you really should have asked for a discount as you would not be getting D, and your order was a special.

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1. If you sell A for 1000 groats then I would expect all parts of it (BCD). If I paid for E, I would expect to get AE (or BCDE). If E was a replacement/upgrade for D, I would expect the option of buying BCE and it would be cheaper than BCDE. In your example, if the included monitor cost 100 groats and the widescreen monitor cost 500 groats, I would expect to pay 1400 groats for BCE. If I were being charged 1500 groats, I would expect both monitors.

2. Don't think the accessory matters unless it were vital to the use of the item. If you were talking about say an external HDD and the accessory was the power cable for it, I would expect both items to be sold together. If the accessory was a USB cable, I would expect it to be included (or at least be aware that it wasn't). If it were an extra USB cable, I wouldn't need it and wouldn't need to know about it. Depends on whether the manufacturer intended for the accessory to be sold with the item or not.

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Isn't that like saying 'if small countries had nukes, America wouldn't attack them?'


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Ok, I'll try to explain it better......
Think of it as an upgrade option, but one for which they are paying full price for, and not receiving the original part that they have also paid for. They have a perfectly usable product, but are unaware that they may have paid for something they haven't received.

Dell to that all the time. Have you seen how much they charge to upgrade from a HDD to an SSD?
It's a lot more than the retail price of an SSD even without the cost saving of not putting the HDD in.

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