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Amnesia10
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22356754Apparently the test results have the same answer no matter what you answer. 
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jonbwfc
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The obvious question is does anyone from the Behavioural Insight Team actually have anything approaching a psychology qualification? And are they able to show the standard development processes any actually useful questionnaire goes through in development? Are there any available statistical analyses of the initial subject data that shows correlation between question and attribute?
Or is it something some half-witted PPE/MBA grad thought up because they're an idiot?
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Amnesia10
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It looks like the idea is to get them on the website and then search for jobs, but not everyone can afford internet access on benefits. The premise is that people can be nudged to do the right thing for very little money, such as "90% pay their taxes on time" encourages people to pay taxes on time. Though if you are in a economic blackspot there is not a lot that can be done to help some people. Most people want a job but many people fail to realise that working 40 hours for an extra £10 on their benefits does not make sense. Until politicians face that reality then we have them running round like headless chickens coming out with stupid ideas. Today the government announced that this unit will be mutualised and sold off.  _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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paulzolo
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According to the Guardian, it’s not voluntary. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... unemployedOr if it is, people are being led to believe that it’s mandatory. Anyway, if you want to take the test, it’s here: http://www.behaviourlibrary.com/strengths.php
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jonbwfc
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Eve if it's not, this government will simply retroactively change the law to say that it was.
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Amnesia10
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Both are future tales of fail. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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JJW009
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It doesn't seem that stupid. It's quite a good way to get people to look at themselves, even if they lie.
My results seemed good.
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TheFrenchun
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I had something similar for work. If anything it prepares jobseekers to them surely?
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jonbwfc
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I suspect everybody's results will seem good. Given the function of the test is to identify people's strengths, it's hardly likely to say anything that bad. In form it reminds me slightly of the 16pf test but I don't think it's doing anything sophisticated. If it's a ruse to try to boost the self-image of the long term unemployed then it has some worth as an exercise but I think any pretence it's doing anything more than saying 'Hey, you're a great person!' in a very roundabout way is pretty flimsy. If it said 'OK, these are your strengths so therefore these jobs would be highly suited to you' and gave you a list, that would be great. if it did that then gave you a list of jobs that were unfilled in the job centre you were registered to, that would actually be useful. Course, that assumes the job centre you're registered to has any jobs.. Jon
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Amnesia10
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Yes but you work so the results would look good, as you are probably doing all the things that help in getting a job. This test is to get people to work and supposedly change the way they view work. Though a realistic career plan with a career guidance counsellor could do that just as easily. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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cloaked_wolf
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Did we call get the same results?
I got: carefulness, originality, modesty, gratitude and critical thinking.
I wonder how many "strengths" they listed.
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jonbwfc
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Hell no 
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Spreadie
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Umm... this isn't new. Not even remotely.
I remember sitting through a bunch of psychometric profiling tests at the job centre around twenty years ago. The push then was twofold - a) identify which type of work my current experience and qualifications would be best suited to, and b) to look at which of my strengths were transferable to a different profession.
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l3v1ck
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It gave me five strengths.
Fairness, forgiveness, modesty, optimism, curiosity.
Not sure how it got that from the huge number of neutral answers.
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Amnesia10
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I wonder if you got broadly similar answers if you responded like a psychopath? _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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