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ProfessorF
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Adobe first launched Creative Suite 1 back in 2003, and now, ten years and six versions later, the company is taking a left turn: Adobe is abandoning its Creative Suite entirely to focus efforts on Creative Cloud.
There will be backlash for this, no doubt.
Adobe targets the same Pro and Pro-sumer community that Apple had the misfortune of knowing when it redesigned Final Cut Pro. Adobe’s decision to solely embrace a subscription offering could lead to mass protest if not handled correctly.
But before grabbing your torch, let us explain what, exactly, is happening — then we’ll get into why.
The News
Adobe has shared with us that Creative Suite 6 will still be available for purchase, but it will not be updated beyond addressing bugs and OS compatibility. There will be no Creative Suite 7.
Instead, Adobe is pointing all of its energy towards Creative Cloud, eliminating the familiar retail box in the process. Like last year, the company is releasing an updated suite of applications this June, newly branded as “CC” apps. This includes: Photoshop CC, InDesign CC, Illustrator CC, Dreamweaver CC and Premiere Pro CC. To dive into the new features, you’ll want to head here.
For creatives that rely on the company’s upgrade paths, some will be pleased to find that anyone with a CS 3 or later serial number will get their first Creative Cloud year for $29.99 per month. For everyone else, the complete version of Creative Cloud will set you back $49.99 per month, or you can purchase a single app license subscription for $19.99 per month.
For teams, the same applies, but you’ll pay $69.99 per month per user or $39.99 if you’ve purchased CS 3 or later — added perks include significantly more cloud storage. For students, CC will set you back $19.99 per month for the complete version, and there is also now a “Teams for Education” offering at $39.99 per month per user.
Note: Adobe tells us it’s willing to be flexible with large organizations with policies that restrict cloud services.
Many have done the math, calculating how much less or more the Creative Suite costs them depending on what applications they use and how often they upgrade. Put simply, if you were to upgrade yearly anyways and use more than one app, you’d spend approximately $300 per app or less — cheaper than buying the software outright. The more apps you use, the better deal Creative Suite becomes. If you’re not convinced, you are unfortunately out of luck.
Why?
When Adobe first launched Creative Cloud last year, the offering didn’t feel like a product launch, but more like a new way of paying for the Creative Suite — Adobe acknowledged this on stage at its Max conference today. Since then, after using the service for the better part of a year myself, real benefits have surfaced.
For starters, there’s access to just about every product Adobe produces, from Photoshop to Typekit. There’s something liberating about this, knowing you can start using any of their apps without dropping hundreds, while gaining access to other paid services, like Behance ProSites. Again, if you already use multiple Adobe products, like many creatives do (myself included), this is a worthwhile deal. Even if you’re not thrilled with some of Adobe’s offerings, like its file sharing capabilities — which, for me, have yet to replace services like Cloud App and Dropbox — you can just ignore them.
For Adobe, the reasoning behind this decision is simple. According to our sources, the company had long searched for ways to stabilize its revenue. Previously, it would receive bursts of income every two years with the latest Creative Suite release. Convincing users to upgrade was a daunting task that left an impact on product decisions.
Then, there’s piracy. Copies of the latest Master Collection always spread like wildfire across file-sharing services, which supposedly leaves a massive impact on Adobe’s bottom line. Instead of investing millions into DRM software which has crippled the user experience of its applications in the past, Adobe realizes that a subscription offering will curb the spread of serial numbers (although cracked apps will still exist).
With balanced income, Adobe will likely look better to investors, so long as creatives come aboard. In addition, a subscription offering is better suited for a growing cloud-based services business, from hosting and serving up fonts to connecting creatives. Adobe is now truly a subscription company, and many won’t like this change immediately. Especially for professionals who’ve invested their livelihood in Adobe products, it’s understandable why any adjustment to a decade-old system can cause a stir.
Still, this is starting to feel like a very natural and reasonable shift for Adobe, in an industry where the lines between applications and services continue to blur.
If you’re feeling otherwise, be sure to let us know why in the comments below. For a detailed look at Adobe’s CC products, head here. |  |  |  |  |
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/05/06/after-nearly-10-years-adobe-abandons-its-creative-suite-entirely-to-focus-on-creative-cloud/
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Mon May 06, 2013 7:27 pm |
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tombolt
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I was just saying to someone the other day that moving from quark to indesign was no bother, so I can't imagine moving back would cause too much issue.
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Mon May 06, 2013 7:42 pm |
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ProfessorF
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If you're a jobbing freelance, surely you'll just factor in the £50 'rental' cost of the software onto the clients bill?
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Mon May 06, 2013 7:49 pm |
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tombolt
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Quite possibly, but you'd more than likely just keep paying it in the hope that you'd have lots of work. The issue for me is that if you have a company like mine, they're not giving you the choice of skipping a generation or two, they're just saying, "hey, here's another monthly overhead for you".
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:01 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Well, as we know, just because the latest new shiny is out it doesn't mean the old shiny has suddenly stopped working. 
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:21 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Given Adobe's licensing mechanisms, that's a very big assumption to make.
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Mon May 06, 2013 8:44 pm |
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JJW009
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As I've posted elsewhere, lack of support makes old shiny less and less useful as various support structures just vanish.
Of course there's no change if you operate in a closed environment with no communication with the outside world, but that's not a viable business model!
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Mon May 06, 2013 10:07 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but many might only use one app Photoshop. My brother only uses that one app so it amounts to a huge price for that one app.
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Tue May 07, 2013 12:39 am |
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Amnesia10
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Just found the Adobe page mentioning the deal. £17.58 a month for a single app. http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html
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Tue May 07, 2013 3:21 am |
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big_D
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And if you have a "drought", you can stop your rental, although you then run the risk of getting out of practice. For projects, it is great, you get 10 people in for 3 months and you rent CC for three months, then when they leave, you stop paying. You still have the hardware costs, but you save several thousand on licences.
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Tue May 07, 2013 4:03 am |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but there is a per seat cost which might increase the rental. Though for the occasional single user it might turn out to be a good deal. You could use it for a years worth of photos over a month or two and so save hundreds. In the end it depends on how you use it. Interesting idea though. One question is how easy is it to cut the rental once you have finished?
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Tue May 07, 2013 4:12 am |
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BigRedX
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Doesn't Creative Cloud require an internet connection to function?
Personally I think this may well backfire very badly on Adobe. These days I work freelance. I haven't upgraded my core applications since Creative Suite 5 and XPress 8. They do all the jobs I need. When I have received files in a later format that I couldn't open, then downloading a demo version of the app in question to allow me to open the file(s) and back-save has sorted me out.
TBH I could still do nearly all my work with XPress 4, Illustrator 5 and Photoshop 5. Later versions have added little in functionality for pro users. AFAICS the majority of new features have been crutches for the artistically challenged.
I can see a lot of people won't bother to upgrade any more when they realise that actually their current software does everything they need creatively and will continue to do so as long as they have the hardware to run it on.
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Tue May 07, 2013 9:37 am |
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Paul1965
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+1 I use Photoshop and Illustrator CS4 every day and I am sure I could get by with Illustrator 8 and Photoshop 5.5. They were the versions I bought when I first got a Mac back in 1999.
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Tue May 07, 2013 9:59 am |
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paulzolo
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Currently cranking away on CS3 here. Considering CS6 just for the longevity. Though what I really need is Photoshop on a day to day basis - Illustrator less so, and InDesign at times. The rest of the CC suite is unnecessary to me. Now may be a time to see what I can use out of the Adobe ecosystem. I should be looking at Pixelmator and Painter more, I think.
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Tue May 07, 2013 10:10 am |
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Paul1965
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Painter is a wonderful bit of software.
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