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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://news.sky.com/story/1107388/five- ... n-the-headThe mother should be charged with neglect at the very least 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:41 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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FFS, America, sort out your gun laws.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:51 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Nothing to do with gun laws IMO but more to do with child safety - that could easily have been a knife/bottle of bleach/lit stove etc.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:07 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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A bottle of bleach, a knife, a lit stove are all eminently more survivable than a bullet in your skull.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:30 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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But the principle is the same.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:37 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Not really. Chances are, with any of the items listed, she'd still be here. The guns are designed as weapons. They're not handy in the kitchen, or useful for cleaning a toilet. If guns aren't so deadly, we really need to have a word with the MOD, I think they've made a terrible mistake in their planning.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:41 pm |
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JJW009
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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It would never have happened if babies were born with guns.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:09 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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If the child had read the safety handbook? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:22 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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And parenting, you don't leave a five year old alone at home! This is a fail on all levels.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:00 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I disagree. This is a question of responsible parenting. Leaving a five year old, home alone, with things that could harm them is a bad thing. It's the same principle regardless of what that item is.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:18 am |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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FFS struggling to keep my response civil. Wrong on so many levels dear god ! 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:27 am |
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hifidelity2
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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I blame the schools - If they had compulsory gun safety training in the Primary schools then this would not have happened 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:54 am |
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ProfessorF
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Yes it is, you're right, but if the gun wasn't in the house chances are she'd still be alive. Yes, it's a huge fail in so many ways, but the degree of fail would've been vastly lessened had there not been a gun in the house.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:22 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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If the gun had been secured, there would have been no danger to the child. Having a gun in the house wasn't an issue IMO it was about how it was stored/kept safe.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:25 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Yeah but this is America, where the Mexican drug gang/Al Qaeda/Government are always about to come in through your door, so people don't store guns terribly well. Most people erroneously buy them believing in 'home protection' or 'personal protection', at which point having them locked in a safe means they're not doing their job. This event was not unusual in the USA.
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