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Spreadie
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ClickySo, what happened to "do no harm"? When did we abandon the Hippocratic Oath? 
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| Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:11 am |
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Amnesia10
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Oh that is so 5th Century BC!
The authorities should resort to criminal action against the boards of NHS trusts as well. They are the ones who set the standards of the trust. Send a few of them to gaol and bar them for life from any public office and that will clean up trusts. If doctors have problems they need to report the problems up the chain of command.
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cloaked_wolf
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Have you actually read the Hippocratic Oath? Here's some excerpts: So you have to believe in mythical beings. Basically you have to teach your children to be doctors, and teach your teacher's sons, as well as uphold your teacher. In the olden days of 1-on-1 teaching, this might've been fine but is entirely inappropriate and impractical these days. Can't give a lethal injection or support euthanasia. Abortions are illegal. Can't operate. _________________ He fights for the users.
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| Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:18 pm |
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Spreadie
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Fair enough.
When did "Do no harm" get thrown out then?
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Amnesia10
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I will fully accept that the Hippocratic Oath needs to be updated in line with technological improvements, but most of the problem is not doctors but nursing and general welfare. I have seen patients deteriorate because they were not fed. Then they become bed bound and too weak to discharge, all because the nurses would not feed the patient.
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| Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:01 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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It's not but it's a small part of it, yet the only bit that the public seem to be aware of. If you look at the excerpts, you'll see no one bothers to swear by it and probably hasn't for the last 30 years. It's a bit like saying "The Bible says 'You shall not murder'", saying "well that's important" and then asking why people don't follow the Bible! Furthermore, the only people who would have swornt the Oath are doctors. Not other healthcare professionals, nor, crucially, politicians who meddle in the running of the NHS. _________________He fights for the users.
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| Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:25 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Well politicians do not care as they all have private healthcare which seriously undermines their need to maintain the service. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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| Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:58 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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IMO politicians should be forced to use the NHS. If it isn't fit for them to use, it isn't fit for the public.
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Amnesia10
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No arguments from me about that. The same for all public services. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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