Yes but it is not in London.

I'm using an example I am familiar with, but would you look at that there are loads
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=car+dealerships+london&ll=51.514244,-0.145741&spn=0.044761,0.091581&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=car+dealerships&hnear=London,+United+Kingdom&t=h&fll=51.514244,-0.145741&fspn=0.044761,0.091581&z=14

In London many areas have noise controls so late night deliveries are not allowed as it keeps the residents awake

Having nearly been run over by a cyclist going the wrong way down Oxford street yesterday, I'm not entirely sympathetic right now.
Maybe bikes need licenses? or just some sort of common sense? If you drive a car you're warned about blind spots on lorries.

There are nob-end cyclists everywhere. I came across a peleton of them in the part the other week. It was a cycle club who, thanks to their lycra and dayglo tabards, felt that they could barrel everyone else (including other cyclists - me included) off the path. Actually, I’ve come across this particular group a couple of times, and they are truly inconsiderate. Cycle clubs on the roads appear ignore the basic rule that you don’t ride more than two abreast, and single file if the roads are busy (rule 66 https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82 ).

I dunno - at times I wonder how long do you have to be a cyclist for before you can be an utter [LIFTED] about it? Cyclists are untrained, unpoliced and certainly at times incompetent. Mandatory training? Given some of the examples I’ve seen both as a cyclist and a driver, I think so, yes.

Also, I found this -

https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-5 ... s-72-to-75

There are plenty of nob end drivers as well.

True, but they did undergo some form of training and examination before being allowed out unsupervised.

Not that many of them try to cut in between a wagon and the kerb because of some god-given right of way. The ones that do try it are often left with a hefty repair bill and life. Cyclists, trying the same, will likely end up with neither.

While drivers do get some sort of training most seem to completely forget it once they start driving. You only have to see the quality of the driving each day to see that.

So, on that basis, you're advocating no training for road users?

I don't pretend to claim that people remember everything from their driving lessons (I certainly don't), but things like station keeping and lane discipline tend to stick in the mind for the vast majority. There are plenty of cyclists who could benefit from learning that much.

No the opposite. Drivers should be retested every 10 years and automatically if they get more than 6 points on their license. Many cyclists are also motorists so already know the highway code. Years ago someone I knew suggested that you should have to do a years probation on a scooter before being allowed to drive a car. He was a very good driver and said it was down to his time on a motorbike, making him more aware of dangers.

Isn't it the case that if you have your license withdrawn, there's some sort of test you have to do before you get it back, even after the period of the ban has expired?


I'm not sure all that many motorists remember the highway code, to be honest with you.


To be fair, there's only one group of travellers who can go out on the road with no training at all, and it isn't drivers or motorcyclists. if you're imposing a strict 'continuing certification of competence' regime on drivers, you're going to have to impose some level of certification on cyclists. And some level of punishment if they do something stupid which they manage to survive.

It's also worth pointing out that, as far as I'm aware, commercial lorry drivers already have the kind of regular testing you're suggesting but they get involved in accidents with cyclists anyway.

I am not saying cyclists are blameless. I saw plenty of examples of dangerous cycling when I was working in London, not stopping at lights, pulling out into traffic without warning not stopping at pedestrian crossings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25052674

'Use public transport. Unless you're Brazilian.'

Meh, open it up and declare open season on bicycles. Deathrace 2013.

That was the reason I started cycling. Within a few months I had paid for the bike with the savings I was making and getting healthier at the same time.