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Amnesia10
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Also the attitudes of people were vastly different to what they are now. There has been a sea change in terms of racial and sexual discrimination between the seventies and now.
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Dave Lee Travis faces retrial over sexual assault allegations http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... llegations
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:51 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I believe there's a phrase involving the words 'good money after bad'.
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Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:37 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Is it really in the public interest to carry on? If he was acquitted on the majority of the cases there is a very high probability that the same will apply to the other cases.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:59 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Equally, if it was alleged to have happened to someone you knew... 
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:51 pm |
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Zippy
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:19 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I was responding to the guys' posts above about whether the retrial should go ahead.
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Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:21 pm |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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He does actually make an interesting observation.
Amidst all the talk of realistic chances of prosecution and cost, were it a close relation of mine pursuing a case, I'd be spitting feathers if someone asked them, 'What's the point?'
However, I don't anyone in that position and so I ask the same question that, in another life, I would have found so very objectionable.
But that's probably because I've had many years' practice at being a hypocrite. 
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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It's an interesting thought experiment but I'm not sure it's that realistic a notion. We can't all have everything we want. That's just a fact of life. Society as a whole has to consider what is best for society as a whole, not just what is best for any one individual (or small group of individuals) within it. That means if, for example, the cost/benefit analysis of attempting a second prosecution against someone wasn't favourable, those who are the alleged victims of the accused probably won't get 'justice' in the terms they wish to have it. That's not hypocrisy, it's putting the collective good ahead of the individual good. We all do that hundreds of times every day, in small ways. This is just a bigger more obvious way. Everyone who has been a victim of a serious crime wishes the people they hold guilty to be pursued to the ends of the earth. That's a perfectly understandable emotional reaction. But as a society, we simply can't afford to do that. This is entirely separate to the notion as to whether in principle it is morally acceptable to attempt to retry people who have already been acquitted i.e whether it is 'fair' to put someone - who has already been found innocent in front of a court of law remember - through the whole process again, simply because some people didn't agree with that verdict. Until quite recently, double jeopardy rules prevented that from happening at all. Whether removing double jeopardy improved the UK legal system or not is a matter of some debate.
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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I don't think there's anything all that novel about a retrial when a jury fails to reach a verdict. It's certainly not double jeopardy.
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Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:43 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Exactly - when my motorcycle was stolen I wanted the whole of the police force, MI5, the CIA and MOSAD mobilised to find it and then put the people up against the wall and shoot them However I know that in the great scheme of things its not that major a crime, no one was hurt and Im insured so the police will provide me with a crime Ref No and then forget all about it
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pcernie
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Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:53 pm |
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pcernie
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Ex-Radio 1 DJ Chris Denning charged with 41 sex offences http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27525751Don't fancy his chances.
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