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pcernie
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28144406Removed for a comment  , the FAIL was seriously strong with that EC ruling to start with.
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Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:17 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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You can't see that particular news article if you google Peter Dragomer. Although you will see one pointing out that he appears to be the dweeb who asked for the removal. I wonder why he bothered? Will he get annoyed if we ask?
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:12 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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I cannot why Google took the search link out. The original article is still in the public interest, which outweighs the right to be forgotten of the commenter. He should have requested the BBC take the comment out.
This seems to be Google deliberately taking action on a high profile sight and not using the ruling's guidelines in order to gain publicity for 'how stupid' the ruling is. If they aren't careful they will end up before the beak again and they will have to pay for an auditor to do the work for them...
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:02 am |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Ahh but there is some debate as to who asked and it maybe someone who posted a comment. Now Google cant remove the comment only the link to the article as a whole
Therefore if you comment (where possible) on any news story (and a lot of new “outlets” allow users to comment on them) you should be able to get the link to that story removed. Unless the outlets stop allowing comments one could in theory block huge swathes of newspaper web sites
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:33 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Not if the story is in the public interest. Then that right supercedes the right to be forgotten.
The EU ruling was very specific about that which is why this case stinks, from the details so far made available. If it really was a comment that was at the root of the takedown, Google will be in very hot water indeed.
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:38 am |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Ahh but while the Story maybe in the public interest my innane comment is not and I want the link to my comment removed - which incudentally just happens to remove the link to the story
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:49 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Which is why the ruling specifically states that public interest comes first. Google can ignore the request with clean hands.
It seems they have overstepped the mark and are self censoring to make a point.
The removal of the link, if it was at the behest of a commentator, would not fall under the right to be forgotten. If Google try and argue it was, then they could be in trouble. If they just did it for the hell of it, then it is just a PR disaster.
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:41 am |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Ahh but my argument would be that I made a silly statement 5 yrs ago when I was young and foolish removed as when people seach my name they come across that comment.
The actual article may well still be relevant but my comment is not so I "demand" that google remove the link
The problem for google is do they want to possibly be sued by 10's of thousands of people if they say no when I ask esp if I can find some "no win, no fee" lawyer who can see big $$ signes in talking this case all the way
Its far easier to remove the link
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:08 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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It doesn't work like that. The article is still relevant, so it is irrelevant if your comment is relevant or not, or whether you want it to be forgotten or not.
The best they can do is not return results for that page if you type your name. But if you search for the article itself it should still slower in the results.
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:23 pm |
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big_D
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http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/389641/goog ... tten-links
Google backtracking.
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Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:09 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... rt-1259808This is it; you'd think Google was the only search engine going.
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Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:00 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... -forgottenThat's the sort of thing that will build to a tipping point. It's like punishing the whole class because somebody got caught.
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Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:10 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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Human rights 2.0; people who obsessively Google themselves shouldn't find anything they aren't just super [LIFTED] proud about forever. Human rights 3.0; stop Googling yourself you twat.
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Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:29 am |
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pcernie
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Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:39 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Either Google or the BBC doesn't understand the ruling. Google aren't removing (or shouldn't be removing) any articles from their search results.
What they should be doing is not showing the link in the results only when a certain name is given in the search term.
That means no BBC articles are being 'removed' from Google.
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