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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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News CLICKYWell I guess not treating patients is one way to cut costs.........
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:27 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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32.04 BMI. So I'd still get it...... just.
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Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:29 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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but they will treat/operate on drug addicts and prisoners but not on people who work pay taxes but happen to smoke or are overweight this will just be the start and they will go on and on providing reasons not too. i wonder who will be next ? ...
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:20 am |
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Zippy
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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I get it from an obesity point of view. It's just not safe to anaesthetise someone who is massiverly overweight.
I do wish they'd stop using BMI as a measure though, it's no real indicator as to a persons fitness or otherwise for surgery. I had to lose 35kg before they would take my gall bladder out in 2012, it wasn't easy, but I did it. I think each case should be judged on it's merits by the consultant as mine was, they looked at my weight, fitness levels, did fitness measurements and stuff before they decided how much I would have to lose.
Not sure about smokers, if there's an underlying medical condition or something that could affect the maintenance of an airway then I guess it's reasonable, otherwise I'm not so sure.
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:31 am |
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davrosG5
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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While that's absolutely right I'm struggling to believe this is motivated by anything other than cost. The medical justification (which was there already) is just convenient window dressing for reducing the service.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:29 am |
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jonbwfc
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I could see smoking being an issue is nicotine in the blood might interfere with the effect of general anaesthetics.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:46 am |
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davrosG5
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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I'm not sure that works really, otherwise smokers wouldn't have been able to have general anaesthetics in times when smoking was far more prevalenet than it is now. Granted there may be new or newer GA's that do have adverse interactions with nicotine but I'm not clear on how much the world of anaesthetics has developed over the past few decades to say either way.
_________________ When they put teeth in your mouth, they spoiled a perfectly good bum. -Billy Connolly (to a heckler)
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:30 pm |
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Zippy
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I can only comment personally I suppose, they aren't saying they won't operate, all they're doing is saying that the person has to be medically fit for them to do so with the lowest possible risk. If my gall bladder had exploded then they would have operated right away because the risk of carrying out the surgery was lower than the risk of septicaemia and various other complications. I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that if the surgery *can* wait while the person loses the weight (as mine could) then it should.
_________________The Official "Saucy Minx"  This above all: To Thine Own Self Be True "Red sky at night, Shepherds Delight"..Which is a bit like Shepherds Pie, but with whipped topping instead of mashed potato.
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Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:07 pm |
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