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That trailer has been on heavy rotation this evening on the channel.
It looks interesting enough for to to want to watch the first ep.

Mark

There's speculation from a few sites that if the next seasons of SHIELD and Carter don't improve in ratings they might get the chop.

Both shows are on fire with both the critics and fandom, but my guess is most people don't have the level of dedication the Marvel universe is starting to demand. Coke only knows it kills their comic sales, and DC are no better. Doesn't help either that SHIELD probably halved it's potential audience with S1.

Carter was the better show, but added nothing to MCU other than nostaglia factor.
SHIELD has been superb pre and post Avengers 2 (which was too MCUy for my liking).

The bigger and more complex the MCU gets, the more TV could be used to fill in the gaps. But they don't market that enough. Stick an Avenger on TV and connect the dots and ratings will go mental...

Yeah, Avengers 2 definitely suffers from the weight of what came before it in the wider universe. And it used to be brilliant when they'd throw in a name like Stephen Strange or even a full-on character in previous films - now you already know years in advance who's getting their own part of the universe! SLIGHT SPOILER FOLLOWS........................The arms dealer in Ultron stuck out like a sore thumb, for example. END OF SPOILER.

The most recent episodes of SHIELD definitely seem to be setting up 'more sci-fi' films which I personally love, but then Joe Average isn't the geek I am! It might compound the ratings problem, but they probably have no choice at this point. Yeah, I'd tie SHIELD further into the Avengers if it were up to me, but everything is pushing towards the cosmic angle and contracts running out movie-wise... I really hated that everything felt so tacked-on in Avengers 2, especially annoying in a Whedon film!

I thought that was just due to Andy Serkis's utterly ludicrous Sarth Efricun accent.


The problem is The Avengers are by definition not a 'human scale' setup. If you've got a team in which several members are capable of levelling cities on their own, a credible adversary to them has to be utterly apocalyptic. It has to be an alien invasion or an army of insane robots or something like that. The stuff that SHIELD would be able to cope with would barely make Thor break a sweat and that's not good for dramatic tension. The DC universe has the same issue with the JLA, they have to either deal with world-shattering threats or somehow shunt Superman out of the picture because if they're dealing with something 'human scale' there's no reason why the JLA wouldn't just look at Superman and say 'you can handle this in like seconds, right?'

Jon

Totally agree, but I meant more regular crossover between the films and the show to help the show (currently SHIELD is doing the backstory for film events that are three years away), and I appreciate it's as much of a logistics issue as anything else (hello, Samuel L. Jackson contract).

All that said, it can become a total mess. There are characters who have been alive in SHIELD, dead by Avengers 2, and vice versa if you're 'late' to either one. And that's before you get to the difference in international release dates for both the show and the film (we got it weeks ahead).

Marvel crippled SHIELD initially by waiting for Cap 2's events, and bridging the distance even with side-villains would go a long way. But they need to be appearing for a few weeks at a time for it to work. And they need to promote the hell out of it as Oke implies. I can think of at least two (former?) Hydra members who would crossover brilliantly in either medium while genuinely adding to them.

Normally I like things underplayed, but if it means saving the SHIELD show, I don't care if that Parker kid shows up with a marching band behind him

The recent finale episodes of Arrow, Flash and SHIELD have all been good but more a matter of convenience, and somewhat nullified when you already know where some of the characters are headed because of network announcements . And absolutely nobody will buy those Arrow outcomes. With hindsight, season 3 has been a letdown after 2. Individual episodes have been brilliant, but set-ups for the future have been seriously mishandled after all the work that went into them.

I'll have plenty of time to catch up on Grimm and Walking Dead at least - there's nearly feck all American TV I'd watch for months now. I do still have to try iZombie...

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That's a bit different lol.

Ernie, read less spoilers and joeblow ish sites. Pay no attention to trailers.

Then you too can life the enchanted experience that I do where everything's a bit more of a surprise. I haven't finished Arrow or Flash yet, but I'm excited to. Flash has improved dramatically along with the odd misstep and I think you may be right about Arrow being somewhat the other way around.

As for SHIELD, I don't they crippled it with Cap 2. Joss crippled it, just like he does with the early eps of basically everything he's ever done (Dollhouse being a standout example). I think the Cap 2 involvement was superbly handled. The way Phil was in Thor and Iron Man is the way they *should* be. This whol MCU thing appeals to a very select audience (i.e. you) who are stupid enough to read every bloody announcement that comes out.

If Joss and the boys from Cap (Russo is it?) stay involved and we have the current casts, I'll be turning out for every movie with their name on it. I don't want to know anything else. It's a brand I "trust" for entertainment. If Marvel get a grip on that, everything will do better. But if they insist on announcing their slate to the world and allowing non-comic fans to go on Wiki and read the plot of things years away - what the [LIFTED] do they expect?!

It's just a shame SHIELD will suffer, coz it's a great show in it's own right.

No, I meant after Cap 2 is when it really got going! But it took far too long to get to that point and everything up until then was filler.

I'd love to avoid the spoiler sites but that would also mean I wouldn't have a clue which TV shows or films to watch - I never go beyond the headlines with the Marvel stuff for instance (though sometimes I post them tagged in my own fashion for those who don't care in that regard), and there's absolutely no way you could avoid the news of a Marvel release anyway (you've no idea how many times I changed channel or walked out of a room over Avengers 2 clips and trailers).

And the door swings both ways. If it's a trailer for a Marvel film, say, I'll give it 40 seconds instead of the full, ridiculous 2.30+. That's served me well in getting a feel for the film and whether or not to spend cinema money on it. And in that respect, I think Guardians is wildly overhyped, and only went to see it of having nothing better to do. Thor 2... I'd have asked for my money back. And an apology. On this basis, I doubt I'll be going to see Ant Man

I knew something was a little off just with the first trailer for Avengers 2. It lacked the spark the first one had, and Joss has actually called the film what I'd portray it as; a war movie. There's nothing at all wrong with that... until he/Marvel started layering on the references to previous/upcoming films. If someone like us would need to watch it a few times to truly get it all, it's a bit crap for just about everyone else.

I really hope the Russos can give Cap 3 the drama and action mix that worked so well with 2. But the character list is already ridiculous, and it'll by necessity set up the next Avengers films. Marvel needs to start making it's films more individualistic again IMO.

I think I have the final three eps of S2 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to watch before I'll go and watch Age of Ultron.
Though I'm back in work tonight so I'll prolly not get to watch those eps until Thursday night, and from Friday I'm away until Monday, so it may not be until the following weekend that I get to see the film.
Hopefully it'll still be in the local cinema then.

Mark

Actually you might wanna stop at episode 19 if you haven't already

After that, you're post-Ultron.

Oohh really?
I think ep 19 was the last ep I watched this morning.

Mark

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