Some certainly would, although we'll never know how many may have voted against due to the whip while actually wanting to vote in favour. This party why I'm against parliamentary whips - it means we don't know what our MPs actually think, only what the party apparatus has told them to do.

To a degree, what's happening here is what I've seen in some other spheres. A lot of MPs joined social media thinking they could 'use' it - get their message out, raise their profile, appear to be approachable etc. They kind of saw it as another form of advertising. They didn't realise that social media is by definition a two way street. It's much more akin to canvassing by knocking on doors, just it's everyone's door at once. The thing is - a lot of MPs don't actually DO the 'knocking on doors' thing any more. If they're in a safe seat they mostly don't bother at all, if they're not it's usually volunteer activists not the MP themselves. So getting this kind of 'red in tooth and claw' response is something they're mostly unfamiliar with. This has shocked them and they're feeling vulnerable.

I have great sympathy with MPs who have received death threats and other illegal, abhorrent responses. This is unacceptable and is itself a betrayal of democracy. But frankly I don't have any sympathy for the notion that an MP can vote whatever way they want to and then expect their constituents who don't agree to just accept it. What's changed is that constituents can now express their displeasure directly and immediately, rather than indirectly once every four years or so.

The internet has changed democracy. It is now much more inclusive, immediate and unfettered. Just look at what happened in Iran last summer and heck, the entire Arab Spring was basically run off the internet. Any MP who is surprised that this trend has reached the UK is either stupid or in denial.

I agree. I am not surprised that my MP voted for military action. I am saddened that he did, but it's a decision that he took. Sure, he took it on my behalf,; by participating the general election, in a sense I gave my permission to anyone who won to make decisions for me, even if I didn't vote for him.

That also means that I can tell him if I think he was wrong, and I am considering doing so. I won't be fire bombing his car, but I expect if I can write a letter or email that expresses my views on his actions without straying into the realms of abuse and threats, he may well get it. I know he will also reply.

The MP in question is a Tory. He's pretty much a lifer, and while I don't like his party or policies, the exchanges we have had in the past on various issues have been good. I believe that if you treat someone with respect, you'll get your views heard in a more favourable light.

Labour is falling apart, but don't blame Jeremy Corbyn for its collapse | Media | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greens ... s-collapse



Er, would they? Vote for the others who were so soundly trumped before? Because I don't see them voting for the other obvious candidate, Mr Benn of the 'what adventure will we go on today' costume shop...

All they have to do is be fcuking honest and vaguely left-wing - the Tories will hang themselves. Didn't anybody notice the sheer panic Corbyn caused when they immediately labelled him dangerous? They know how sociopathic their agenda is FFS.

Corbyn's Momentum group moves to block influence of hard-left parties | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ft-parties

At this rate they'll need Jimmy Cricket-style boots...

Somewhat odd, given the 'moderate' *cough* member of the PLP were claiming Momentum was rabidly left-wing.

Precisely. Also makes you wonder who the Lib Dems have

Labour activists launch new group on party's left | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... artys-left

They could be the only ones left standing at the rate Labour's going.

Labour MP Jess Phillips will 'knife Corbyn in the front' if he damages party | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... l-election

Make your mind up. You need clear water between you and the Tories, precisely the opposite of doing and saying anything to get elected. The Tories will hang themselves soon enough, but people like you need to have the guts to shame them en masse instead of trying to shame each other.

Corbyn wished MPs and Tim Peake a “Happy Christmas” at PMQs today.

David Cameron hears “Season’s Greetings” and makes some narky “I’m going to say 'Happy Christmas' because you didn’t” type comment.

Corbyn reminds the house that he said indeed said “Happy Christmas” and wonders if the PM was listening.

Labour party may need to split to survive, says key ex-Blair adviser | Politics | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... eter-hyman

By the time the Tories are done Miliband and Corbyn will seem like Skywalker and Kenobi, but it'll probably be too late since the Sith will have changed every process that gave the Rebels a (new) hope. And they're a right load of Binks anyway.

I'd no intention of using that many SW references, I swear

well done.

They may well need to split to survive. 'Split' as in 'tell all the whiney blairite ****wits who haven't yet realised they're not actually popular or needed any more to eff off'. They can go off and form their own 'centre party' and find out what being in the lib dems feels like.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ria-speech

I could see him having his 'bastards' moment soon.

Sun forced to print front-page correction over Corbyn claim | Media | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/d ... rbyn-claim

No, sorry, there should be a proper showing made when it comes to front-page corrections.
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Labour people are optimists, but this time I see no hope | Polly Toynbee | Opinion | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... emy-corbyn

I'm halfway through that and will need to read the rest later, but I'm agreeing with her so far.

The Jeremy Corbyn quiz of 2015 | Life and style | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... iz-of-2015

6/10

enough of labour etc, English people need to vote UKIP before you all become completely overrun...