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oceanicitl
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:29 am |
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big_D
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If his evidence was rejected and he was still acquitted, where is the problem, or am I missing something?
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:33 pm |
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pcernie
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Not getting the whole story here I suspect.
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:40 pm |
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paulzolo
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Agreed. Clearly someone is not telling the truth here, but I’m not defaulting to the “the BBC is wrong” position that the hysterics want me to until I know more. Everyone loved Rolf Harris. He was a legend too.
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:12 pm |
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oceanicitl
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Jeremy Vine todayFirst segment on the show From his statement
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:55 pm |
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oceanicitl
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Hats off to everything Nina is saying on the Jeremy Vine show.
Well done her! It's exactly what everyone is thinking
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:58 pm |
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paulzolo
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Probably worth quoting the relevant portions of the report. A7 is Tony Blackburn’s reference in the report.  |  |  |  | Quote: 9.55 Approximately 10 days after Mrs McAlpine’s complaint, Mr Preston confirmed to Mr Derrick that, a few days earlier, A7 had been interviewed by the Head of Light Entertainment Group, Television (Mr Cotton) and had flatly denied what had been alleged. Mr Preston, however, recorded a note of concern, “For my part, I must accept the situation, although I would be less than fair if I were not to record that his [A7’s] recollection of [date redacted] does not agree with the first thoughts of his agent”. Mr Preston did not specify in what respects A7’s account had differed from the agent’s first thoughts, given over the telephone. Further, the BBC papers do not contain a note of A7’s interview by Mr Cotton and Mr Preston and, as the rest of the file appears to be intact, I infer that no note was taken.
9.56 The Savile investigation interviewed A7 in 2013. He told us that all he remembered was being called by his agent just before the News of the World article came out to be told that the article was going to be printed and that his name was in Claire McAlpine’s diary. He remembers being told by his agent that, in addition to his name, there were other showbusiness names in the diary, including the name of Frank Sinatra, and remembers the diary being described by his agent as “ridiculous”. In our interview, A7 denied that he was ever made aware that a complaint had been made against him and also denied that he was ever interviewed by Mr Cotton and/or Mr Preston. He said that this was not a lapse of memory on his part; the interview had not taken place. It was pointed out to him that, if indeed there had been no interview, it was strange that Mr Preston should have written this memorandum and should have recorded his concern about the disparity between the account given by A7 at the interview and that given earlier by his agent. A7 could offer no explanation for this and said that he was “mystified”. Later, through his solicitor, A7 accepted that I might well prefer the documentary evidence to his recollection on these issues. I do prefer that evidence and think that A7 was interviewed and denied the allegation. There was no other investigation.
9.57 For the sake of completeness, I should make it clear at this stage that I have not attempted to make any judgment about the allegation involving A7 and Claire McAlpine. The question does not fall within my Terms of Reference. My legitimate interest in this matter relates only to what can be inferred about the BBC’s culture and practices from the way in which the matter was investigated by the BBC. |  |  |  |  |
The report does carry a health warning about its content, BTW.http://downloads.bbci.co.uk/bbctrust/as ... gation.pdfThe quotes above start at page 513, but there is more context a few pages before. In short: BBC has memorandum recording an interview which took place some 45 years ago. Tony Blackburn says that no such interview took place. Dame Janet Smith prefers written documentary evidence over the recollections of a year old man who has had over 40 years to forget what happened. Motives for the BBC to sack him? Possibly it’s a deflection tactic, but also it clearly feels the need to be seen to be taking this kind of thing very seriously. One head has rolled, others may well follow. I guess that we’ll see how the courts respond to all of this when Blackburn’s legal action kicks off. Right now, though, it’s all very contradictory, and we won’t really know the truth of it from what we currently have. We probably never will. I’ll remain neutrally minded about this for the time being.
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Spreadie
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Really? I don't think many people know enough of the facts surrounding this to form an educated opinion.
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:59 pm |
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paulzolo
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Being a "legend" or a "national treasure" immediately means people will unquestioningly jump to your defence at the slightest provocation.
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:10 pm |
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oceanicitl
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I am more likely to believe Tony than the BBC especially after all they have lied about and covered up over the years.
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:06 pm |
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oceanicitl
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And where is Tony's name mentioned? 'Blackburn' doesn't even appear in the report.
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:09 pm |
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davrosG5
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Tony Blackburn name doesn't appear, it's been replaced by A7.
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:27 pm |
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oceanicitl
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Tony is suing the beeb and has started a personal defamation suit against Tony Hall. He wouldn't go to all that trouble if he was in the wrong.
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:12 pm |
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davrosG5
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Because nobody in history has ever used litigation to try and cover something up?
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:33 pm |
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jonbwfc
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He must think he stands a chance of winning, given these kinds of law suits are famously expensive.
Note that 'chance of winning' in defamation cases bears almost no relation to any kind of logic as any normal person would understand it.
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Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:03 pm |
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