the PM steps down the canceller will no doubt also. a new Govt hopefully follows.
we are out of this cess pit called the EU. oh happy days ...

other EU countries will now have to choose in or out. the EU is dead may it Rest In Peace ...

Here’s a nice graph for you all.



https://twitter.com/FT/status/746243856165933056?s=04

Also sounds like a few promises made to those voting Leave will not be honoured, such as handing over that £350 million a week to the NHS. Hmm.

thank you when the EU completely falls show me the graph
we are out the EU is dead in the water

who can trade independently and who has to try and trade ...
answers on a post card please. we won and we will win the trade. to the victor goes the spoils.
the banksters are making a meal out of it as they have done time and time again.

have a happy day as i am ...

Looks like there may be a second Scottish Independence referendum.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-36621030

fine. let them do so. there is no EU for them to try and join ...

I know the notion of 'facts' hasn't been particularly well supported during the campaign on either side, but let's not be entirely blind to reality eh? The EU does exist and as far as I can tell none of the 27 member economies have tanked by 10% in the last 24 hours. So right now, they're doing a lot better out of this result than we are. The longer term is obviously a different thing entirely, but if you actually think you can predict the long term of economies with great fidelity you really shouldn't be wasting your time posting on here, when you could be out making a humongous fortune in other places.

I really don't know what the situation would be if Scotland seceded from the UK before the UK formally severed it's ties to the EU. Nobody does. The idea a nation deciding to leave while one bit of that nation declares it's independence from the other bit and intention to stay in the EU hasn't even been included in treaties - it's simply a situation that never even occurred to anyone it would happen (and I can't really blame them frankly). If the UK completed it's disassociation from the EU before Scotland gained independence, Scotland would almost certainly have to apply to the EU as a new member with all the requirements that entails. However by definition it already meets a lot of the requirements because it's had to do so as part of the UK.

here's the tl:dr version : No [lifted] has any actual clue what's going to happen now because there's no previous example to work from. And anyone who DOES think they know what's going to happen by definition isn't someone whose opinion is of any validity whatsoever.

We've jumped out of the plane. We're currently in freefall (in a non- perjorative sense). What sort of parachute opens is yet to be determined. It could be the Union Jack parachute from The Spy who Loved Me. Or it could be the cocktail umbrella preferred by Wile E Coyote. I wish us all the best of luck.

I see there's a petition for London to leave the UK so it can stay part of the EU.
Sinn Fein have already started saying that the Northern Irish could stay in the EU as part of a unified Ireland.
And the Spanish are having a go at poaching Gibraltar as well.

This is going to get extremely messy me thinks.

The Blairite faction of the Labour party have started submitting letters of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn because he didn't magically carry all the Labour voters onto the remain side. IMHO he was the only politician I saw who actually presented a considered view of voting to remain. He was the only one who seemed to have actually given an honest answer about how he actually felt about the EU. Naturally, a considered opinion wasn't as entertaining as senior politicians in a slagging match. I couldn't bring myself to watch any of the debates although I gather that Ruth Davidson came out of the one she was in rather well.

There is nothing even approaching a legal basis by which this could happen.


There's little chance of an Irish unification treaty getting off the ground before the UK leaves the EU. And I doubt anyone knows which way any referendum on that would go.


Bear, woods, Pope etc.


Apparently we don't want considered opinion, knowledge, expertise etc. We just want whoever can shout a completely spurious promise with the most conviction.



Davidson is apparently a somewhat worthwhile outside bet for the next party leader. Depends if they want a unifying leader or a divisive one (e.g. Boris).

Interesting graphs. I note how short the time scale is, so it hides the longer term trends. It's no different now than it was in Sept/Oct.

Looks like the French want shot of the Calais problem. I don't blame them, to be honest. Would you want that on your doorstep? No one in their right mind would vote for that, would they?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36626553

So as an example of how we have 'taken back control', who are you going to vote for in the election for the new government and Prime Minister?

The stat I heard was that, in fact, the pound was a cent lower against the dollar than it was in February. The current fall is still a by record amount over such a short period, which is as much the point as the level it fell to - it wasn't just that it fell, it's that it fell so quickly people didn't have time to mitigate the effect of the fall. It remains true that the Brexit result has significantly damaged the UK economy, at least in the short term. Whether it recovers is anybody's guess right now TBH.

i will vote as i have done before. at the last GE. UKIP

as of another referendum bring it on. the way the EU are acting its going to lead to a massive vote OUT
but instead of another referendum lets have a GE. i think you will be surprised (very) at the outcome ...

I feel you've somewhat missed the point. YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE ON THIS. You have no say whatsoever over who the next Prime Minister is. The only people who get to decide who the next Prime Minister is are three-hundred and odd conservative MPs, so not people you voted for at all. Then whoever gets the nod will decide who the cabinet consists of, again entirely without your or in fact anyone else's (well, maybe Rupert Murdoch's who is, you know, not British) input. That is who the government actually is. You have no power in any of this at all. You never have had any power in any of this at all. The 'control' you so happily proclaim you have 'taken back' is an illusion and always was. You have no say whatsoever in how the country is run for the next four years. Nobody in power gives a flying one what you think, and they never have, and they never will.

As someone put it this week, all the vote has done is taken some power from one bunch of entitled elites and handed to another bunch of entitled elites. We've taken power from criminals and handed it to monsters. Oh the joy of it!

whoever the next PM is ... shrug. i don't really care.
i will wait until the next GE and worry about it then ...