As posted in the guardian live Blog comments thread

Gloria de Piero (Ashfield) Leave 69.84%
Tristram Hunt (Stoke-on-Trent Central) Leave 69.34%
Caroline Flint (Don Valley) Doncaster Leave 69%
Dan Jarvis (Barnsley Central) Leave 68.31%
Margaret Hodge (Barking) Leave 62.44%
John Woodcock (Barrow and Furness) Leave 60.62%
Stephen Kinnock (Aberavon)/Neath,Port Talbot Leave 56.84%
Angela Smith (Penistone & Stocksbridge) Sheffield Leave 50.99
Lillian Greenwood (Nottingham South) Leave 50.84%
Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) Leave 50.84%

Yeah, Jeremy Corbyn blew the Remain campaign...

I think actually that Corbyn could genuinely say he'd learned lessons from the Scottish referendum. Appearing on the same platform as the Tories did Labour no favours there and if anything confirmed there was naff all difference between Labour and Conservative with the results clearly visible in the following GE. Not that I expect any of the twats knifing the party front and back to acknowledge that of course. He basically said as much when he was on the Last Leg (unfortunate program name on this occasion).

Labour wanted to stay in the EU but to reform it and for different reasons than the Tories. Sharing a platform with Cameron would have knackered that message, or at the very least you could guarantee the press wouldn't have bothered themselves over much reporting it.

Mr Corbyn may yet put together a new shadow cabinet which are anti EU and run the next election on that ticket as he himself has always been anti EU.

if they don't then i see a UKIP Govt. or coalition at the next GE ...

To quote a tweet I just saw...

Corbyn is out. Any predictions for candidates?

Or not. See statement http://www.theguardian.com/politics/liv ... confidence



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If the PLP want him out they need to come up with a candidate who can beat him in a leadership election and there's no indication yet that they've got one. Unless there has been a dramatic shift in the level of support he has amongst party members/supporters who will be eligible to vote the chances of ousting him are actually small.
At the same time however the PLP can basically paralyse the party in the commons although that's a move that's pretty risky as if they end up pissing off the CLP that selected them they could find themselves out of a job come the next election and replaced by someone who will represent the actual members not their own narrow interests. Waiting around that long however gives the Tories time to sort themselves out which is not a particularly good idea IMHO.

It's a bit like the relationship between the Democratic president and Republican congress in America. Neither side can get the other out and neither side wants to work with the other. So you get a stalemate.

Corbyn isn't for resigning and there's no 'unity candidate' for the party to put up in a leadership election against him. But there aren't enough Corbyn sympathisers left in the PLP for Corbyn to form a shadow cabinet (note: The fact the cabinet and shadow cabinet have 70 - SEVENTY - jobs to do is utterly effing ludicrous, but that's another argument) and therefore either people double up or there are ministerial posts which are 'uncontested', which is in legislative terms quite bad.

It's an utter, utter mess. At the moment when the Tory party has managed to shoot itself in the foot, the PLP decided to shoot itself in the head. They're a bunch of idiots.

Jeremy Corbyn admits 'This seems a bad idea' after letting cameras into first meeting of new shadow cabinet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... letting-c/

I keep wondering recently how Britain ever had an empire. It's amazing we ever got out of bed.

Cameron to Corbyn at PMQs today: "For Heaven's Sake Man, Go"

http://www.lbc.co.uk/cameron-v-corbyn-a ... 2pm-133025

How Labour elects it's leader.

In summary : you need 50 (or possibly 51) MPs or MEPs to nominate a candidate to trigger an election. Nobody knows for certain whether a standing party leader is required to be on the ballot paper or not. The whole thing can only really be started by the party conference, which is in September.

The upshot is this : The only way they can get Corbyn out before September is if he resigns. Which he shows no signs of doing despite the pressure.

if the story that they want him out by the time the Chillcot report hits because at that point they're all going to be in the crapper, and he knows this, then they're going to be struggling by the looks of things. if Corbyn thinks as long as he hangs on until Chillcot he's going to be OK, they've pretty much got nothing left to throw at him to get him out before then. Oddly, I think the only other chance they had was if the Torys were going to have a 'snap leadership election' and get the whole thing done in a few weeks, so that would apply extra pressure on Labour - i.e. Corbyn - to follow suit. Now they've said they won't elect a new leader until September, he can basically say 'what's the hurry?'

Jon

The obvious comeback to that (which as far as i know Corbyn didn't use, because he's too nice) is 'Is that what the EU leaders said to you yesterday then?"

Jon

If they voted for a new leader, and Corbyn got voted in by the party members again, it could tear the party apart.

Absolutely. However that looks like it's going to happen anyway now. I doubt very much if the right and left wings of the labour party are going to be able to live together after this.

I watched it, and no, there was no comeback like that. Cameron also said something along the lines of him put everything he had into the Remain campaign, and if Corbyn did he wouldn’t like to see him when he wasn’t trying.

We could end up with 2 labour parties which would of course please the Tories no end - although the Right wing ofthe labour could move to the Liberals and give them a shot in the arm.