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I had to take an iMac in to be repaired about a year ago Carrying a 27" iMac through The Trafford Centre was a bit of a laugh, but anyway.. I plonked it on the desk and the Apple Genius dude booted it off a USB hard drive had special diagnostic stuff on it. Amusingly, that software was plainly running on 'old' Mac OS 9...


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& what dongle do you need


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37880723

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A tweet posted shortly after Apple’s recent Macbook launch event underlined the absurdity: Apple now sells 17 different types of dongle.

In its ever-escalating war against connectivity ports, Apple’s latest computers do away with the SD card port, a full-size USB port, and the HDMI port.


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As the world’s richest company, .......couldn’t it afford to pop a dongle or two in the box to make its present-day customers a little happier?

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As the world’s richest company, .......couldn’t it afford to pop a dongle or two in the box to make its present-day customers a little happier?

Which of the 17 would that be? There are 126 different combinations and 272 permutations of 2 from 17. Even if we assume some combinations are more popular than others and they look at the sales figures of the various ones, I find it hard to believe that any pair of connectors in the box would satisfy anywhere near 50% of the people buying it. To everyone else, they're just useless junk. Some sort of scheme where you get vouchers in the box for any two connectors you like would be much better. If you need connectors you get them, if you don't, you get to maybe sell on the voucher to a friend and get a bit of cash back...

We've had this argument before when the iMac shipped just with 'standard' USB ports. We'll have it again somewhere with some thing. If you don't like what Apple is selling, don't buy it. There are plenty of alternatives. If you spend 1700 quid on a product and then immediately find things to complain about it, it's not the person who sold it who has the problem, it's you.


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If you are selling a mass market product for 1700 quid and your most ardentfans are complaining about it, you are doing something wrong.

I would say that, probably, a USB-C to USB-A connector would be the most useful - considering most Mac users also have iPhones and, according to Apple, even the iPhone 7 is a legacy device, when it comes to Mac connectivity.

I would think USB-A and Thunderbolt would be the most useful adaptors, at least then iPhone and existing Mac users with an Apple dock/monitor users can upgrade with a minimum of fuss.

But I agree putting a voucher in the box makes the most sense.

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Dongles and adaptor cables are just a recipe for disaster. Having owned them in the past when other ports were phased out, that's the first place to look when things stop working properly. I'd just go out and buy USB C cables with the appropriate connectors at the other end to connect directly to what ever gear I'm still using with that particular Mac. In my case that would be an old-style Mini USB, micro USB and Lightning.

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