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Apple is stepping up to an expanded leadership team helping steward the magnum opus that is HTML 5.


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Somewhere, the IE team are going 'lalalalala-not-listening'.
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Somewhere, the IE team are going 'lalalalala-not-listening'.
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He joins fellow co-chairperson newcomer Paul Cotton, partner group manager for Microsoft, who helps drive Microsoft's interoperability and standards strategy.


No, but I reckon Mr Cotton says at every meeting "Yes, but I think it should be done like this"...


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In al fairness M$ are getting much better in this respect.

Impressions produces valid code where as FP never could.

IE8 isn't compliant but its much more compliant than previous versions.

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IE8 isn't compliant but its much more compliant than previous versions.

Compliance is like pregnancy. You either are or you're not. Being compliant with bits of a standard is actually no use at all.

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AlunD wrote:
IE8 isn't compliant but its much more compliant than previous versions.

Compliance is like pregnancy. You either are or you're not. Being compliant with bits of a standard is actually no use at all.

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That goes for Apple, Mozilla, Google, Opera et al. None of them support 100% of the current standards, most of them only have partial support for the current standards, heck most of them only support JavaScript from about half a decade ago...

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jonbwfc wrote:
AlunD wrote:
IE8 isn't compliant but its much more compliant than previous versions.

Compliance is like pregnancy. You either are or you're not. Being compliant with bits of a standard is actually no use at all.

Jon

That goes for Apple, Mozilla, Google, Opera et al. None of them support 100% of the current standards, most of them only have partial support for the current standards, heck most of them only support JavaScript from about half a decade ago...


It really depends on WHAT standards though, which is the royal PITA especially for some browsers in that they are all pretty much compliant in different ways

IE8 is 100% ACID3 compliant...but probably just as uncompliant in other areas as FF, Safari, Chrome or Opera

For x different browsers they could all render the same page in x ways. It's stupid and needs to be addressed as it means a web designer doesn't have to make pages work in all browsers... just one and it will render the same in every other browser after...

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