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The 'new' series of Knight Rider is airing on Fiver. Right now, the pilot episode is airing.

Figured some of you might want to have a look in. I've already seen the first season.

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Is it any good then?

I seem to recall an appalling film called Knight Rider 2000 a while ago which had the Hoff in it as a sort of cameo handing over the baton to someone else. It was unforgivable, the killed off Devon Miles in the first few scenes. And James Dohan (Scotty from original Star Trek) was in it briefly. An awful, awful film.

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The pilot was a bit crap really and I couldn't be arsed with the rest of it.

The new KITT however, is very sexy. Each to their own.


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Of course kitt is sexy, it's a Shelby 500! ;)

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Is it any good then?

I'm a Knight Rider fan (kinda like the way Star Trek/Star Wars fans feel about their shows). I watched the entire series back last year. Comparing it to the original series, I'd give it 3.5/5, especially in an arc that develops towards the end of the series. Comparing it to other contemporary shows on TV, I'd give it a 2/5, maybe even a 1/5. There's a reason why NBC didn't pick it up for another season and now it's in syndication.

The show has some promising stuff - KI3T* is a bit more sensible. No more 'oh I didn't pick that up on my scanners' kind of crap that I hated about TOS**. The car does grow on you but still looks like it has the aerodynamic properties of a brick. There's not much in the way of action compared to TOS. KI3T auto-cruises and there are some cool features, like a windscreen that's like a HUD and shows info on it (incl. video). The surface of the car can display stuff too - it has that stuff that M$ is making for its coffee table.

Most fans are divided on the singular most important issue: TRANSFORMATION. That's right - the car 'transforms'. It will 'transform' into a 4x4 (another Ford vehicle; advertising is as blatant as it was on Team Knight Rider where the Ford logo was prominent on each car). It will also 'transform' into convertible. The mechanism by which it does this is not known but thought to be built on the premise of nanotechnology which was demonstrated in the Pilot show. In the pilot, KI3T has a 'shell' made of nanotech-type stuff which can be altered into different shapes, and was used to make 'minor' modifications to the car, including changing colours. In the series, the entire vehicle can change. It must have a repository of 'nano-particles' to do this. Also, it has machine guns popping out of its bonnet and missiles popping out from doors too small to hold them. Some fans accept the way KI3T transforms. For others, like me, it makes the show less believable.

Stunts: There were far too few stunts. Presumably because of costs of using so many cars and damaging them. In the 80s, a there was a train carrying a load of trans-ams to the dealer. The train derailed and as a result the cars could not be sold to the public. This meant Glen Larson had around 11 cars that he could use for stunts etc. There were more turbo boosts in the pilot episode of TOS than in the entire season of KR08.

In terms of plot, the show has promising plots but these are poorly developed or not taken to its fullest potential and as a result the entire thing feels half-arsed. Halfway through the season, there was a 'reboot' involving killing off half of the cast (there were too many to keep focusing on so lack of proper character development) and this arc stretching three episodes was well done but managed to be wrapped up in a single episode (instead of a two parter which most fans would have been better). Too much T&A (more than baywatch) also helped the show lose its credibility, as well as the fact that the main female co-star was in the car more than she should have been (how many times do you remember Bonnie sitting as a passenger in TOS?), again detracting from the 'one man and his car' feel that TOS had.

Think that covers most of it. Watch it with low expectations and you might be pleasantly surprised. Watch it as a KR fan and prepare to be let down. Don't feel you have to watch it though.

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I seem to recall an appalling film called Knight Rider 2000 a while ago which had the Hoff in it as a sort of cameo handing over the baton to someone else. It was unforgivable, the killed off Devon Miles in the first few scenes. And James Dohan (Scotty from original Star Trek) was in it briefly. An awful, awful film.

DH*** really wanted to bring back KR. The aim was to produce a series where the lead was a female. The whole thing was crap and is thought of as a separate universe from the other KR spin off, TKR. Again, there were very few KR fans who liked it.

*KI3T is used to differentiate between AIs - the newer Knight Industries Three Thousand, and the original Knight Industries Two Thousand, normally referred to as KITT.
**TOS = the original series
***David Hasselhoff

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I have seen most of the series and while some of it is ridiculous, it is entertaining. If you have the ability to stop laughing at the outrageous liberties taking with the technology and story, then it can be fun.

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Thanks for the review cloaked_wolf.
I suspect this will either be on some obscure digital channel of five if it ever gets shown on terrestrial in which case I won't be able to see if anyway (damn lighning/cr@ppy aerial!).

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Thanks for the review cloaked_wolf.
I suspect this will either be on some obscure digital channel of five if it ever gets shown on terrestrial in which case I won't be able to see if anyway (damn lighning/cr@ppy aerial!).

It is on some obscure digital channel of five!

Knight Rider, Season 1, Thursdays 8pm I think, on Fiver!

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What a crock of [LIFTED]!

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I've already seen the first season.
Then you've already seen all of it because it's been canned.

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What a crock of [LIFTED]!
+1.
It's rubbish folks.

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Then you've already seen all of it because it's been canned.


cloaked_wolf previously wrote:
There's a reason why NBC didn't pick it up for another season and now it's in syndication.

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timark_uk wrote:
Then you've already seen all of it because it's been canned.


cloaked_wolf previously wrote:
There's a reason why NBC didn't pick it up for another season and now it's in syndication.
I know, but it was still rubbish and, in my opinion, well worth canning.
Now then, if only more rubbish shows got canned and the better ones left to thrive …

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I know, but it was still rubbish and, in my opinion, well worth canning.

I don't disagree. One of the (many) things that didn't sit well with me was the fact that 'Mike Traceur' was given the name 'Mike Knight' without any other change. How is a simple name change going to confound anyone. TOS at least gave MK a new face and fingerprints to match the name change.

Anyway, I hope it means that Glen Larson's planned retelling of the pilot can now take place, instead of having to vie against KR2008.

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Finally. Mark shows up with some well needed realism.

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