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Get your flame proofs on and jump on the merrygoround again

Am I the only person who sees Windows 7 as Vista with new clothing?

It's not any more stable than Vista and I have yet to see any reason why it's more secure. Sure, UAC on Vista was a pain but after I got my machine up and running I was (un)lucky if I saw it once a month...

Why is it that people on the PC side of things are always rubbishing their past? "You will love your PC again"? So the previous hardware and software models made people dislike their PC's?
Was it MS who said that Windows 7 was what Vista should have been? What kind of marketing it that!?

I thought that it was the beta testers who said win7 was what vista was meant to be. Either way, it's still cheaper to go for a new machine wih win7 than to buy an apple mac.

As for stability, is have managed the crash every version of the mac since apples came with the g3, each time doing only 'normal' stuff.

well its easy to see how he got his job.
In other news from the Apple spokesman "the prseident is a black man", "bears use the woods for a toilet" and "the Pope has been outed as a Catholic".

No, I do as well...and I bought a mac after trying W7...it is just Vista with a KDE4.2 rip-off as a front end. Uses all the same drivers, same kernel and I already have DX11 running on my Vista PC thanks to the free platform update every Vista user will be getting.

I wonder if the in-place upgrade with actually uninstall Mail, Movie Maker, Messenger, IE8 and Photo gallery from your Vista machine for that fresh "does nothing out of the box" W7 feel?

It is an evolution of Vista. "new clothing"? A bit more than that, it is like Snow Leopard to Leopard on the Mac - optimised and under the hood tuning, although you get the new Dockesque taskbar, which is nice.

But, yes, unlike Vista's quantum leap ahead of XP, Windows 7 is a lot more fine tuning. That said, I'm still upgrading my Vista machines to Windows 7 - well, I upgraded the home machine already, the DVD turned up early 8)

So, anyone going to a Windows 7 Launch Party then?

I doubt it!
Early Vista reviews = Vista - Epic fail
Early Window 7 reviews = Win7 - Epic win.

If Windows works, people won't see a need to pay extra for Mac OS.

Actually I remember the early Vista reviews being quite positive. The IT mags. changed their tune however once the public started its campaign of hate.

It was that bad I actually felt sorry for Microsoft - Vista was the best version of Windows IMO.

I remember the BBC being all over Vista. They were loving it on every page - so much so that they got a lot of complaints. The problems didn’t seem to surface for a few days, by which time it was old news.

If I may, just for a moment, refer everybody to my sig for my opinion.



Seriously, IMO no OS out there just works - they all contain not-insignificant amounts of back-asswardness. IMO they're all obtuse, difficult to use and bloated. I only use Linux because I have no free & legal alternative.

There, said it.

QFT.

When I were a lad, an OS was just that. An operating system and nothing more. Most of them fitted into a few KB, and you were lucky if they came with so much as a text editor.

These days, they're all distributed with about 1000 applications for everything from video editing to voice recognition to word processing etc. There are inbuilt interfaces and drivers for literally thousands of things you'll never use, including more printers than you've even heard of.

In my day, if you wanted a network you had to buy a network OS costing thousands. If you wanted speech recognition, you had to buy a DSP and software costing thousands. If you wanted to print a document, you needed Word Perfect or Word Star with the correct printer drivers or an Epson FX80 compatible printer. If you wanted it all to work, then you needed a memory manager and a magic wand.

Windows 7 isn't an OS. It's a bloody "productivity suite"

All OS's do indeed 'just work' depending on what you want to do with them.

It's a slightly ambiguous phrase that. Depending on where you put the emphasis you might mean "My OS just (barely) works".