http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8317212.stm

No doubt I will be summoned by my GP’s practice to receive my medical reprogramming.

No idea how this got the go ahead when plenty of perfectly worthy treatments remain unfunded.

Vaccinating against a virus, terrific. I think I've had it, my friend certainly has, it's flu for frack's sake.

Bird flu didn't create enough hysteria so they're trying doubly hard with swine flu.

I know of many health workers refusing, wisely, the "vaccination".

Me too I suspect. Being "at risk" and all. I won't be complying.

Bit bloody late for me. Been off work all week...

Bored now.

Jon

I'm not deemed "at risk" and I won't be getting the jab. I think the only circumstances under which I would even consider getting vaccinated would be if I were pregnant, because then it's more than just my health at risk, otherwise, I have no problem at all with the idea of getting the flu, as long as it's not before Egypt.....

My niece's school closed after more than half the pupils went down with it inside a week.
I think I may have contracted it a couple of months back, so far everyone else in the family has dodged it.
I don't know of any health worker who's in favour of it, or Tamiflu for that matter.

question: For those at risk do you have the yearly flu jabs?
If so why does the swine flu jab differ than having the yearly jab?
wouldnt the testing period for the yearly jab be very similar in length of time from the yearly one?

There's also not been much mention of the research done by Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba in Canada, that suggests that those who receive the seasonal flu jab are twice as likely to contract swine flu.

They're not entirely sure why that is but many provinces have now suspended the seasonal flu jab for under 65's.

As for swine flu, well, if the side effects of the "cure" are worse than those of the flu itself I still have to have it explained to me as to the reason for the mass vaccination programme. I mean, as viruses go, don't they generally mutate if they start facing a bit of competition from partial vaccination?

Or is that just some bizarre idea myself, and several Doctors I' know of, seem to have?

I have never had the jab and rarely get ill. My girlfriend has just gone down with it as have a number from her office. She is recovering now.

Nope. Never. Not once.

No.



Apparently, Parmageddon affects the respiratory system far more than your average seasonal flu.



I would imagine so, but I’m not involved in producing the vaccines in any way, so I cannot answer with any form of authority.

I’ll probably get the jab to keep relatives and other half worrying.

I will not worry about the jab. If necessary I can stay indoors for a few weeks so that I do not infect anyone. I get my milk delivered, and have a full larder so can cope with being interned indoors without much problem.

Each flu jab is specific. There is no panacea for all flu types. The "annual" one is different each year, but there are known strains which are "most likely" to big. Those are the one that normally get jabbed.

The Swine Flu jab though is experimental and the main one doing the rounds uses an experimental adjuvant (aluminium salts based), which means that less of the active viral component is needed, because the adjuvant increases the potency of the viral component, meaning it can be spread thinner - it saves the drug companies time and money in producing large quantities of the serum.

The downside is, the adjuvant is linked to Gulf War Syndrome, was used in a cervical cancer drug, which caused side effects including motor control failure, kidney failure, heart failure and brain damage...

Given that in Germany we only get the adjuvant serum (the government, the laboratory which studies disease and the armed forces get a more expensive version without the adjuvant) and so far there have been around 26,000 cases of Swine Flu and 2 deaths, I won't be joining the queue in a hurry!

Very true big_d.

I remember reading about a German Lung Specialist, I can't recall his name at the moment, who was raising concerns over the adjuvant and their possible links to various cancers and autoimmune problems.

The testing has been rushed through for this, I find it ridiculous. All of the side effects will, unfortunately, come to light with what is essentially, testing on the public.

I have noticed that you can get a rough estimate of how much fear a population is living in. Thankfully, there are still many in the UK who haven't succumbed to it, Germany sounds like it is even less hysterical about it and so too Finland who have stopped issuing Tamiflu unless you wish to pay for it as it is not considered necessary.

Then again you look to the US, who I feel sorry for as the population seems to be in a constant state of fear, where in some States people have been queuing for over 8 hours to receive a jab.

I need to see conclusive evidence, of which there is none, that this is necessary. The health risks associated with taking the vaccination outweigh the risk of not taking it, IMO.

Why they want to instigate a partial vaccination programme, which if I'm not mistaken may lead to the virus evolving to counteract both the cure and vaccine, I have no idea. Furthermore, I find the lack of mention of the Canadian concerns over the possible increased risk of contracting swine flu, if you have both a jab for seasonal flu and swine flu, absolutely irresponsible.

Basically, they keep stating on the media "trust us, the scientists say it's fine". Anybody with even a basic knowledge of science knows that such a statement is only ever made by people who don't have the full facts.

The US media are going crazy over every aspect of the jab. Some ask is it safe, then question it because it is being done by the government and has not been adequately tested. Though the US have far more cases than the UK. My girlfriend has contracted it as has another member of her office. She caught it a day before they issued the shots so will not be getting it. In the US I would imagine that everyone wants it anyway. They are at greater risk with far more cases already. Plus if they are ill and unable to work many will not get paid, plus they will certainly have issues with their insurers. There is also a risk of unemployment if they are away too long. Hence they will want the jab.