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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Lo all, I have a confusing problem with a friend's PC. About 60% of the time it just hangs at the XP welcome screen. It isn't completely locked up, because the mouse cursor still responds. When it does boot correctly, I see several Run.DLL errors and NOD32 throws up worm and trojan warnings. This still happens after running a scan and clean, in safe mode. After it reboots, the malware is back, maybe generated from a mule file by a script I suspect, and randomly named processes appear. The annoying thing is it will not allow access to the net through a browser, nor will it display a USB drive in My Computer. The system still has access to the net, because NOD32 update and Itunes still work; I just cannot connect through a browser. Finally, if I select windows update from the start menu, it displays the google homepage. Anybody seen these symptoms before? It is a real pain in the ar$e.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Mon May 04, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Angelic
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:16 pm Posts: 704 Location: Leeds, UK
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My standard procedure when computer is playing up:
Step 1 - Download Lavasoft Ad-aware, Spybot Search and Destroy and whatever your Anti-Virus is (I favour McAffee).
Step 2 - Update all normally, run all normally (deep scans).
Step 3 - Restart in safe mode with networking, Update all again, run all again.
Step 4 - Restart in safe mode without networking, run all again.
Step 5 - Back up manually (drag and drop everything you need, make sure you get get everything like keys etc).
Step 6 - Format, reinstall windows.
Obviously if the strange behaviour stops between any of these steps then stop. Because it's fixed.
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Mon May 04, 2009 6:57 pm |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Thanks for the suggestion, though I have carried out all the usual stuff already, and managed to gain access to the web to download Ad-Aware; but it found nothing more than MyWebSearch and a few cookies.
Still no joy on USB drives, and I have since found out that access to drive C, through My Computer, is denied. Windows explorer still works though.
I'm currently searching for possible scripts that rebuild the nasties at boot. Unsurprisingly, folder options has been removed from the Control Panel and tools menu in My Comp, so there are obviously a few hidden files or folders the nasties don't want me to see. Regedit is also disabled at the moment, but I'm working on that.
You know, I used to love this kind of challenge, but nowadays I have to fight the urge to smack the PC owner with a cricket bat.
Regards
Spreadie
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Mon May 04, 2009 11:59 pm |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Making some progress.
Regedit is fixed, so I have restored folder options.
Have also fixed the access denied on Drive C.
Microsoft update is still redirecting to Google.com, but there are (very lengthy) solutions on the net, so I'll have a crack at that tomorrow.
NOD32 is still finding nasties when run after a reboot, so there are still some considerable problems to address. I want to make sure the system is reasonably safe before I try backing his itunes and do a reinstall.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Tue May 05, 2009 1:12 am |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I'd do a backup before you do anything else.
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Tue May 05, 2009 1:19 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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I can't do a backup yet, the system will not recognise any new storage devices and I cannot use the DVDRW either.
I'm still trying to figure out why I cannot see USB drives in my comp.
The system detects them and states they are ready for use, and they are listed in the device manager, but I cannot see or access them. They don't show up is disk management either.
This is starting to get annoying.
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Tue May 05, 2009 9:03 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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Sorted. Was a nasty little rootkit, causing 90% of the problems. I have regained full control of the PC and have cleaned out all remaining nasties. Spyware, rootkit and AV scans are now coming up clean. 
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Tue May 05, 2009 10:09 am |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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For future reference, I'd have booted from a live CD or USB Flash and used that to backup the important stuff onto whatever media was available. Being independent of the installed OS, it wouldn't suffer from any of the malware problems. It reduces the risk of loosing data if the malware gets really nasty, or if the repair goes wrong. Also note, the scans you run are unlikely to identify any as-yet unknown malware. I'd prefer a clean install, but at the very least you should run a software firewall on it to see if it detects anything "dialling home".
_________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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Tue May 05, 2009 8:37 pm |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:28 am |
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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A clean install would be the only thing that could give me the peace of mind.
Otherwise I would forever worry that I've missed something that is somehow hiding from my AV searches.
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Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:32 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:43 pm |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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I did do a clean install after I backed up the itunes stuff.
BTW JJ, you're absolutely right about using a linux boot cd. I have knoppix on a CD for future use.
Still, despite it being bloody annoying, I did learn a few tricks, but it would be nice to have the luxury of learning without the risk to his itunes library. He did receive a stern lecture on the merits of backing up his stuff.
Regards
Spreadie
_________________ Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
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Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:37 pm |
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