http://www.avermedia.eu/avertv/uk/product/ProductList.aspx?IID=5

Would like to turn my new PC into a HD freesat plus box. Have dish and shotgun cable waiting.

I'll take a stab and say those are pretty pricey

I used:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Compro-V ... pture-Card

for £25 it picks up the HD channels currently available and works fine in Windows 7, using with my windows media remote and it all works fine

HOLY **** FIN!

Result. I was not expecting that. Putting together the build over the next week or two, but will def bear that in mind. What's the SD picture like? Software good? Twin tuner situation alright?

SD picture is fine, I run it through a passive 1gb 9500gt so I have native HDMI out

Software I can't comment on for the compro, I used Windows Media Centre, picked up the channels, can change them around etc. EPG is pretty sweet as it's transparent while watching a show but you can get a mini picture etc, recording is 6gb/hour I think depending on quality/space left and supports coming out of sleep to record (then going back)

Tuners work differently, you can daisy chain them (has an input and an output) but you don't get a dual tuner in it for recording one while watching another, but if you did then IIRC you're limited to what channels are on the streams as opposed to frequencies, never bothered me though, I think it's a windows fail there as MythTV allows 1 record + 1 watch from one stream on one tuner. I only have 1 card though, you could add another fine though from reading on AVForums etc (people are going for it as DVB-S is a LOT cheaper (DVB-S2 is £90+) and everything you can legally get is DVB-S, only Sky use DVB-S2 for anything ATM)

For 2 tuners DO NOT DAISY CHAIN THEM (sorry for shouting but it's very important).
Each sat card or box needs to go to a separate LNB (or LNB output).
It's all to do with the way the sat card sends a signal to the LNB to tell it what feuq & polarisation to use.

I meant daisy chain for DVB-T cards, not DVB-S

For DVB-T or DVB-C daisy chaining is fine.

And if you want DVB-C just get a Eurovox and be done with it

But the floppy dtv is sooo much fun, especially streaming it from the TV server.

Spotted another DVB-S card you might like
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TV-Tuner-Pinnacle ... 53dedd97ee

It's sent from germany, but dual DVB-S on pci-e

Sas, I know you mentioned it before about daisy chaining... I can only get one line from my LNB to my HTPC, is there a way to use 2 DVB-s tuners to be able to record a channel and watch another at the same time? I have a loopback on my current card (the Compro) but I'm pretty sure I can't get a LNB connection (max the dish will take is a quad on atm... and already on 3 receivers)

That's a very good find for that card. Might get one myself.

If you daisy chained it you could only watch/record channels on the same freq & polarisation. Whenever you changed channels on one it'd effect the other tuner.
If you can get to the dish you could mount another quad LNB next to the existing one, you'd have to run another cable to the other tuner though as Win 7 doesn't support diseq switches.

Right nerds, you're clearly way more knowledgeable than me about all this. DVB-S/T?!

What I'd like, is a way of recording satellite broadcasts across the "Freesat" channels. If I can get the HD ones (all two of them), all the better. But as my plans have possibly changed, I'm either looking at regular PCI (i.e. not express), or external.

DVB-S= Satellite
DVB-T= Terrestrial (aerial)
DVB-C= Cable

Just plonk one of Finlay's cards (from his first link) into a PC and use either Media Centre or media portal to get the channels. ITVHD is a hidden channel so you may have to use media portal to get it (as you can manually type in freq's & polarisations)

10510 on a regular channel scan on MCE

Though it's FUBAR, I get sound but no image... and pretty much nothing is on it.

I've been looking for a reasonably priced 7010iX for a while but they are hens teeth. I wish I had been on the ball when they could be had on ebay UK for less than £30 ..
Unfortunately shipping from germany is another 23 euros and the last time I bought from ebay germany I had to send the card back as it was faulty .. ended up costing far more than a brand new card bought in the UK ...

Still very tempting though ..

Didge