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			| timark_uk Moderator 
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			| John_Vella I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am
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 Location: Manchester.
   | Yeah, the D5000 but I couldn't get to the shop as the after hours work took longer than expected. Let's just hope the boss lady doesn't change her mind. Again.  _________________John Vella BSc (Hons), PGCE  - Still the official forum prankster and crude remarker   Sorry   I'll behave now. Promise   
 
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			| belchingmatt I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am
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 Location: Middle Earth
   | How about starting a petition saying that you should get a Vella family DSLR. I'll sign.   _________________
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			| Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:43 pm | 
					
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			| John_Vella I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am
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 Location: Manchester.
   | No, it'll be mine for my use only... the kids don't tend to look after stuff like that. I may have accidentally  left a brochure under her mobile phone this morning  _________________John Vella BSc (Hons), PGCE  - Still the official forum prankster and crude remarker   Sorry   I'll behave now. Promise   
 
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			| Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:27 am | 
					
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			| belchingmatt I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am
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 Location: Middle Earth
   | Very underhand, but sometimes you have to deal with them on their own terms.   _________________
 Dive like a fish, drink like a fish!
 
 ><(((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º>
 •.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><(((º>
 
 If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
 
 
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			| John_Vella I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am
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 Location: Manchester.
   | If I was dealing with the wife on her own terms I'd have to go out and buy the camera and then give her a call and drop it into the conversation... "Hi honey, you OK? Oh by the way, I bought that camera. Hello...? Hello...?"          :etc: But I'm too nice to try that one, even though that's what she did when she bought her last car... and booked our last holiday...  _________________John Vella BSc (Hons), PGCE  - Still the official forum prankster and crude remarker   Sorry   I'll behave now. Promise   
 
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			| veato I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am
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 Location: Nottingham
   | Do what I did with the new Sigma lens - convince her it will somehow be of benefit to her. Works a charm! She even paid for it     _________________Twitter Blogflickr 
 
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			| EddArmitage I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm
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   | Have you got it yet, JV? If not, I'd highly recomend going to Jacobs, and there is one in Manchester .
 
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			| John_Vella I haven't seen my friends in so long 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am
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 Location: Manchester.
   | No, not got it yet, and I might now have to wait until some of the money comes through from my dads estate, as the boss lady seems to have gone off the idea... even though she still says I can have one. I did pop into Jacobs the other day, but I think I'll take a wonder over at lunch time. thanks for the link._________________John Vella BSc (Hons), PGCE  - Still the official forum prankster and crude remarker   Sorry   I'll behave now. Promise   
 
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			| Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:25 am | 
					
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				   | Can anyone tell me if a 500D is just a 450D that also shoots HD vid ? Am saving up to get one, don't need HD capability, have an HD camera already. 
 
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			| Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:34 pm | 
					
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			| TheHobgob Occasionally has a life 
					Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:33 pm
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 Location: UK, England.
   | 450D - 12.2MP. 500D - 15.1MP.  I think (I am no expert) that's the only difference, I believe the image processor is different in the 500D allowing the additional MP but that would need checking with someone else. Hobgob._________________Twitter: AdamW89 Flickr: The Hobgob 
 
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			| Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:38 pm | 
					
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			| timark_uk Moderator 
					Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm
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 Location: Belfast
   | Comparison below : LCD screen 500D - 3.0" / 920k pixels 450D - 3.0" / 230k pixels Sensor 500D - 15.1 MP CMOS (1.6x crop) 450D - 12.2 MP CMOS (1.6x crop) Auto ISO 500D - Auto (100-1600) 450D - Auto (100 - 800)	 I guess they are the main differences in terms of spec. Mark
 
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			| Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:52 pm | 
					
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			| ProfessorF What's a life? 
					Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm
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   | (edited to be slightly more useful... )Clicky  Max resolution     	450D: 4272 x 2848
 500D: 4752 x 3168
 
 Effective pixels
 450D: 12.2 million
 500D: 15.1 million
 
 Sensor photo detectors
 450D: 12.4 million
 500D: 15.5 million
 
 Sensor size
 450D: 22.2 x 14.8 mm (3.28 cm²)
 500D: 22.3 x 14.9 mm (3.32 cm²)
 
 Pixel density
 450D: 3.7 MP/cm²
 500D: 4.5 MP/cm²
 
 ISO rating
 450D: Auto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600
 500D: Auto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 (6400-12800 expandable)
 
 Continuous Drive
 450D: Yes, 3.5 fps, 53 JPEG or 6 RAW frames
 500D: Yes, 3.4 fps, 170 JPEG or 9 RAW frames
 
 Movie Clips
 450D: No
 500D: Yes, 1920 x 1080 (1080P, 16:9) @ 20 fps, 1280 x 720 (720P, 16:9) @ 30 fps, 640 x 480 (4:3) @ 30 fps
 
 Weight (inc. batteries)
 450D: 524 g (18.5 oz)
 500D: 520 g (18.3 oz)
 
 
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			| timark_uk Moderator 
					Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm
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   | Erm …
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			| ProfessorF What's a life? 
					Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm
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   | Yeah, didn't see your response.   
 
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