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21st-Century Shooters Are No Country for Old Men

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We’re breaking into an elevated enemy base surrounded by jungle. We have the benefit of cover, lush overgrowth and ancient ruins. But the enemy has the advantage. The approach to their base becomes Hamburger Hill. I die over and over, sniped by a hundred unseen gunmen, trying to push my way toward the goal. The fight starts feeling pointless.

Am I getting too old for this crap?

I’m currently embedded in MAG, the new PlayStation 3 shooter that puts up to 256 players on the same battlefield. And at first, the notion of running and gunning with so many other people is exhilarating. But after all these shots to the head, I feel like this most complex of shooters may only be navigable by younger players with the free time to learn how to handle a hundred human foes.

I’m 37, and I’ve been gaming since the Atari 2600. Last year, at the peak of Modern Warfare 2 mania, I found myself in a hip Hollywood bar celebrating the birthday of an old college buddy. We’re all in our mid-thirties. As usual in a crowd of aging, buzzed geeks, the conversation veered toward videogames — specifically, the prowess of the young punks swarming the Call of Duty servers.

“They’re too good,” said the birthday boy. “And now they’re killing you with knives before you even have a chance to shoot them. It’s [LIFTED].”

Everybody in the bar agrees: Young gamers are somehow better than older gamers. Is it because they have fewer responsibilities and more free time? Or is it their youth that keeps them sharp?

And what the hell can us old-timers, with one foot in our gamer graves, do about it?

“The hottest new kid on the Halo 3 circuit is 14,” says Rod Bresau, a journalist who covers competitive gaming associations like Major League Gaming. He says kids are just wired better for shooters. The world’s top Quake players are 16, 17 and 20, he says, and their raw reflexes give them the edge.
Wisdom from Grandpa Walsh

David Walsh is the oldest player in Major League Gaming. The kids call him “Grandpa Walsh.” He is 25.

“The younger guys have much more refined motor skills, [having grown up] with more-advanced systems,” Walsh says. In other words, they cut their teeth on Halo 2 while we were playing Pac-Man.

“I don’t feel like getting older means getting worse,” he says. “I just think that the younger guys are getting so much better.”

It’s tough to argue that free time, or the lack of it, isn’t a factor. Jason Thompson, a 30-year-old South Carolina middle-school teacher with a wife and a 6-year-old, struggles to find a spare moment to play Modern Warfare.

“It is frustrating to come back to the game and feel like I’ve been left behind,” he says.

Thompson is careful not to mix school and gaming — he politely declines requests to play with his students, preferring to mix it up with fellow dads. One of his teammates is expecting his first child, and the gamers discuss birthing classes and day care during firefights.

By building a strong team of grown-ups, Thompson believes he’s found a way to leverage his experience and stay competitive.

“We mostly play ‘Domination,’ which is a tactical game,” he says. “This requires us often to sacrifice our lives in the defense of our flag, or in the capturing of an enemy’s flag.”

“Most younger players,” he says, “are so obsessed with keeping their kill/death ratio high that they rarely play correctly in tactical games.”
Tactics and teamwork

Young players’ superior twitch reflexes might help them keep their kill counts high and their deaths low, but that’s not teamwork. Thompson’s teammate Dave Hill, 30, says cooperation is the secret to their success in modern war games: “We communicate well, play as a team, help each other out and usually stick to a predetermined plan.”

Some oldsters don’t even bother trying to outwit the kids with age and experience. “As you get older, your want to be schooled by a 15-year-old supergamer disappears,” says game writer Chet Faliszek, who works for Valve and worked on Left 4 Dead. “You know you can’t beat him.”

Faliszek says that many older gamers gather on the forums of his company’s Steam service to start private matches in Left 4 Dead, a cooperative shooter that forces four friends to work together to survive the zombie apocalypse. Online, it pits players against each other in teams: four humans versus four infected zombies. The situation seems crafted to suit older gamers like myself, who would rather play together than die alone.

That was supposed to be the hook of MAG. The game’s massive battles are meant to bring players together by throwing them into smaller units, each of which is led by a more experienced tactical player.

These leadership roles would seem to be tailor-made for the older gamer, interested more in tactics than being on the front lines. But the job of trying to transform a squadron of teenage strangers into a well-oiled machine must require the patience of a saint — like herding cats, if the cats stopped every so often to call you gay.

I sync my Bluetooth headset to my PS3 and fire up MAG one more time. None of my friends are playing the game, so I’m hoping I get lucky and stumble upon some good teammates.

I jump into a match. The chatter in my headset makes me feel like I just climbed onto a prison short bus in Mobile, Alabama. My knuckle-dragging squad mates drawl insults at each other, make fun of my handle and call everyone’s sexuality into question.

Maybe it is just a matter of being able to put up with it: Who else but a fellow teenager would stand for this constant abuse long enough to get any good at the game?

I no longer even care to find out if I can hold my own, and I turn off the PS3. After all, when you’re an old man like me, you’ve got to pick your battles.


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Do you find yourself getting stuck/slaughtered in games a lot more than you used to?

I know I certainly do - as a kid I'd have played games until my eyes bled if I'd been allowed, but with the PS2 I only ever really dipped in and out, and I wonder has that led to me not maintaining some of the skills involved, or if I'm getting older, or if the games are getting tougher in general... :?

What are your experiences, even if it's just that LCD handheld you found again in the attic that you used to pwn ;)

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I'm only 21 so I can't really comment on the "younger players are better than older players" debate.

The in-game chat does annoy me though. MW2 is an 18 rated game, and yet, after killing someone the dog pricks up his ears as a slew of incredibly high-pitched insults gets hurled towards you from some 12/13 year old kid.

Annoying.

I've changed my privacy settings now so that only my friends can communicate with me - it's much better. :)

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21st-Century Shooters Are No Country for Old Men
Do you find yourself getting stuck/slaughtered in games a lot more than you used to?
I know I certainly do - as a kid I'd have played games until my eyes bled if I'd been allowed, but with the PS2 I only ever really dipped in and out, and I wonder has that led to me not maintaining some of the skills involved, or if I'm getting older, or if the games are getting tougher in general... :?
What are your experiences, even if it's just that LCD handheld you found again in the attic that you used to pwn ;)

I just started playing MAG this weekend. It kind of embodies both aspects of the argument. I've played shooters on and off but I've never claimed to be any good at them (more of an RPG type) and I can definitely say that I do better when playing with people on my friends list (many of whom are the same age as me) than I do on public servers. However it's very hard to distinguish that whether the physical aspects of a person's age directly has anything to do with it, as oppose to the simple fact that a lot of people on public servers (of all ages) spend an awful lot more time on there than I do.
It is equally true to say though that, both playing an observing, I've found that a team playing in a coordinated way and with some strategic and tactical plan will usually beat a team who are essentially playing 'deathmatch together'. And I think the more mature player is actually more attracted by that type of game, whereas younger players like the more immediate reinforcement of straight shootout modes.

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I've changed my privacy settings now so that only my friends can communicate with me - it's much better. :)

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Nick wrote:
I'm only 21 so I can't really comment on the "younger players are better than older players" debate.

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I've changed my privacy settings now so that only my friends can communicate with me - it's much better. :)


I'm only 27, but I sometimes struggle to remember the controls in games these days, as do similar-aged friends* :oops:

That's a good idea with the privacy settings, might do that myself if I ever get into the online gaming bit :)

* Though some initial control configurations are just nonsense these days :roll:

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I haven't played a "real" game for over 2 years. I've played the odd Flash logic game or pool simulator, but I haven't touched an MMORPG or ego shooter for over 2 years (well probably 5 years for an ego shooter, I never really got into them).

I find I just have better things to do with my life these days.

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The reason younger players are better, is because they spend hours playing. Simple as that. The rest of us have lives that we have to run and that means we just can't put the time in. I love multiplayer gaming. Especially tactical shooters. But I don't play anymore, because everybody online is just so frakking good. It becomes boring to be destroyed frag after frag. There's no room for people like me, who have a reasonable skill level, but only wanna play every now and again. And that's a shame.


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I'm only 20 and I know for a fact that I was better at 16. It is primarily the amount of time you have to play but also my reflexes have slowed in the last four or so years too.

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On console shooter im toast, yet on a PC version I can usually hold my head and get mid table mediocraty :D

Though if your still playing CS:S look out for dads army and manxrats servers as they tend to be full of older players (there is something disconcerting hearing some player tell another to stop playing and do there homework and hearing in respone "yes dad" or even "ok grandad" and knowing its meant :shock: ).

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I'm 39. Half the time I can't remember who I am or what I'm doing, and my reaction time is now measured in minutes.

I was a lot sharper when I was a teenager :cry:

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Well I think I'm sharper at 28 than I was 10 years ago. But that's not down to video games. That's training.


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I'm only 20 and I know for a fact that I was better at 16. It is primarily the amount of time you have to play but also my reflexes have slowed in the last four or so years too.


In that case as a 49 yr old i may as well curl up and die :lol: :lol: ;)

It doesn't matter if they are better than me.It's the fun to be had gaming :D
If you cant have fun or it isn't fun any longer then it's time to give up.



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Bloody hell if that is the case

me a youngster of 54 is knackered then :shock: :shock:

and can when I want to, hold my own gaming on line :D :D

and I know much OLDER people doing the same

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I don't play anymore, because everybody online is just so frakking good. It becomes boring to be destroyed frag after frag. There's no room for people like me, who have a reasonable skill level, but only wanna play every now and again. And that's a shame.



I consider this a flaw in the games we play.

The games should be able to assess a player in terms of their ability, not their rank. Infinity Ward say that MW2 can do this - but it can't. It really really can't.

All they seem to do is group people into games based on rank - which is an awful way to group people. All rank tells you is how much the game has been played - not at what quality it has been played at.

If they looked at different stats, such as shot accuracy and kill/death ratio then you might get a fairer grouping of people.

They could even start to asses people's different gaming styles and group them on that - distance travelled per kill, or number of sniper/rifle/knife kills etc so the game is balanced between people who prefer different tactics.

If they do this, and manage to match people against more suitable opponants then I'm sure XBL/PSN usage would rocket even further.

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I gave up on shoot em ups years ago as they relied on combinations of key strokes and after my accident there was no way I could master them. I prefer strategy games where speed of reaction is not essential.

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