http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... istry.html

I doubt that any of us will disagree with this.

My degree is in colouring in

If people aren't studying the sciences, does this not tell you that there's something wrong with these courses?

The legal profession draws an ever increasing number of students, clearly 'the law' is doing something right and the sciences aren't.

When you see how much graduate scientists get paid then you could understand. They get paid a pittance. If the government really want to encourage take up of the sciences then they should have free tuition and grants for all science courses. That would boost take up. It would be a low risk option for graduates, and then universities could actually take students with talent. The same could apply to anyone who signs up to be a teacher who does a minimum of seven years.


Not necessarily. There are a few courses that are actually worth getting, Maths, Law, Medicine and Economics actually result in higher salaries. Many of the others actually have little extra benefit.

I do civil engineering. Because it's the hardest, because we could potentially kill thousands of people at once if we mess up a design and because architects are always fun and agreeable people to work with

O rly?

Mark

Or you can make a wobbly bridge in London.

After I had finished my degree in cell biology (in 1997) I was offered a full time job for a massive 7K p.a. and unfortunatly things havent really changed much. Not when you can go into management and are not required to know anything.
My advice is if you want money science is not the way to go. This country does not value people with knowledge and skills.

Well there you have it then. I can't envisage many students looking at the pay prospects for careers in science and those of other industries (e.g. legal) and opting for the science route.

You can't moan about poor take up of science courses if the prospects of a career in science are rubbish. Boost the pay and you might actually attract the numbers, until then I suspect the courses will continue to stagnate or decline.

So you have a degree in cell biology and low pay! Would you like to work for Al Quaeda? The pay is good, prospects for travel and if you opt for the martyrdom program 72 virgins as well.

Does he offer health care, share option scheme and a good pension scheme as well , if so Im in

I'd rather have 72 dirty minded experienced beauties please , why on earth would anyone want 72 people who are in heaven and are virgins Also Im sure theres another translation that states its raisen's not virgins. There could be alot of "martyrs" going "WTF"

Jo Caulfield the comedienne had a joke about the virgin bit as well. the only Virgin she knew was her old auntie, adding that she had similarly aged virgin friends and was that really what martyrs were expecting?

Favourite quote from a science lecturer at uni.

I think the whole university system is terrible. At the moment my uni is looking for departments to make 5% cuts, otherwise they will cut the department budget by 20%...They are looking for departments to take on more students but not the number of lecturers, modules or degree schemes, and they won't up the amount of space a department has. Here in Aber the comp sci department has three corridors (about 400 feet long) for offices and research facilities, anything else is shared with physics, and physics shares its building with mathematics...

A mate of mine graduated last year with a degree in drama, he's been in work for the last nine months, albeit nothing to do with his degree. A couple of friends I know graduated last year one with a degree in physics and the other in chemistry, they are still trying to find jobs, and shops/bars/etc are telling them they are over qualified...
Do media studies/drama and you might get what you want, otherwise people will still take you on to serve beer to the grateful public and pay your bills.