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veato
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am Posts: 5550 Location: Nottingham
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.....screaming " die die die"
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:40 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Intent in legal terms is premeditation. There was none of that.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:07 am |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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No, they wouldn't. But the guy had a [LIFTED] breakdown. As a result of a pre-existing stress condition and the bullying of the kids. Should he have hit the kid? Of course not. But everyone needs to take a breath. GBH sure, but the rest is just bollocks.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:53 am |
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soddit112
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:12 pm Posts: 2020 Location: Mute City
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im still curious as to why they let people (not just this guy) with stress problems teach, its a stressful job as it is. how could no-one have seen something like this coming?
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:22 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Probably. But you can't predict the kids. Bearing in mind he'd just returned, he was at his most vulnerable. Had he settled in for a a little while, he might've handled it better. Who knows? Every teacher I know (and that's quite a few from NQT to 20yrs experience) has had issues with stress at some point. I think it's the nature of the system as it is. It's unfortunate and probably avoidable, but I don't have the answers. It just seems to be that in this case, he's pleaded for GBH and he should get GBH - nothing more.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:20 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Probably forced to return to work or get the sack?
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:26 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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Ah, that clears up your point. When you said 'those kids need to learn a lesson here' I was unsure as to your stance. If he had an underlying stress condition and left because he thought he may harm somebody the Education Authority, at the very least, should have referred him to a Clinical Psychologist.
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:53 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Sorry, it needed clarifying. There are clearly lessons to learn here, but I think the defendant has already learnt his!
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:43 pm |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:23 pm |
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jonlumb
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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That sounds about the right result to me. Quick decision by the jury as well.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:28 pm |
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okenobi
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Quite. Pleased to hear it.
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:57 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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+1 It is good to see that the jury realises that pupils can be awful. I would have had no problems acquitting. The provocation was incredible, on top of his previous condition. I hope that the judge gives him a suspended sentence for the GBH. Custody is not warranted in this case.
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:32 am |
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Paul1965
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:29 pm Posts: 5975
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Amnesia10
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He spent eight months on remand so the judge has said that was more than enough so when he is sentence from the GBH he will go free.
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