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Election 2010 Thread 

Who will you vote for at the Election
Labour 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
Conservative 24%  24%  [ 11 ]
Liberal Democrat 50%  50%  [ 23 ]
National Parties (SNP, Plaid Cymru, Sinn Féin, English Democrats etc) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
UKIP (or other anti-EU parties) 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Green (or other Eco-friendly party) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Religious Parties (eg Christian Peoples, Islamic Party of Britain etc) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Independent candidate 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Pie 13%  13%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 46

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Yes but when you consider how bad the economy is and the how badly Gordon did in the debates, shows that the Tories still do not have a credible policy overall. Much of the Tory policy was based on fear. Yes it will be bad but if you cannot offer hope you do not deserve to run the country.


Or that Labour supporters are complete and utter sheep.


Most people in this country are, not just Labour supporters.


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Yes but when you consider how bad the economy is and the how badly Gordon did in the debates, shows that the Tories still do not have a credible policy overall. Much of the Tory policy was based on fear. Yes it will be bad but if you cannot offer hope you do not deserve to run the country.


Or that Labour supporters are complete and utter sheep.

Yes but they probably realise the alternatives of a Tory government are even worse. While Gordon did not stop the banks he did at least sort out the crisis here at least temporarily. The Tory plans will make things worse.

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Yes but when you consider how bad the economy is and the how badly Gordon did in the debates, shows that the Tories still do not have a credible policy overall. Much of the Tory policy was based on fear. Yes it will be bad but if you cannot offer hope you do not deserve to run the country.


Or that Labour supporters are complete and utter sheep.

Yes but they probably realise the alternatives of a Tory government are even worse. While Gordon did not stop the banks he did at least sort out the crisis here at least temporarily. The Tory plans may make things worse.


changed for accuracy, as unless you have a time machine and can visit parallel dimensions, your viewpoint can only be a guess. ;)

Though for one and I do accept I may be totally wrong :D the idea of being in massive debt and the only way out of it is to go into even more debt, does sound a bit ludicrous.

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Or that Labour supporters are complete and utter sheep.

Yes but they probably realise the alternatives of a Tory government are even worse. While Gordon did not stop the banks he did at least sort out the crisis here at least temporarily. The Tory plans may make things worse.


changed for accuracy, as unless you have a time machine and can visit parallel dimensions, your viewpoint can only be a guess. ;)

Though for one and I do accept I may be totally wrong :D the idea of being in massive debt and the only way out of it is to go into even more debt, does sound a bit ludicrous.


This is actually the point I was driving at, people are very keen to make broad sweeping statements with bugger all evidence other than their own bigotted opinion to back them up. Of course not all Labour voters are sheep, although like all parties it will have its fair share of them.

At the end of the day, all we are doing is speculating on the future, no one can do that with any authority, so difinitive statements on that subject just make the issuer look like an imbecile.

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Though for one and I do accept I may be totally wrong :D the idea of being in massive debt and the only way out of it is to go into even more debt, does sound a bit ludicrous.

I was concerned about the deficit well before the financial crisis. Though now that we are in close to being in another recession, cutting spending now will just slow us down still further. With Europe about to fall back into a recession because of other worries it will only drag us down further. The US is about to fall back into a recession with housing going to fall even more. With the US banks inadequately reserved for further losses. Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.

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Though for one and I do accept I may be totally wrong :D the idea of being in massive debt and the only way out of it is to go into even more debt, does sound a bit ludicrous.

I was concerned about the deficit well before the financial crisis. Though now that we are in close to being in another recession, cutting spending now will just slow us down still further. With Europe about to fall back into a recession because of other worries it will only drag us down further. The US is about to fall back into a recession with housing going to fall even more. With the US banks inadequately reserved for further losses. Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.

Or they can go

trident.. cancel. Nuclear attack subs yes, nuclear boomers no.
Id card scheme.. cancel, cancel, cancle cancel
theres a few bob saved striaght away.

Proper procurement in government contracts.
No longer accept the lowest bid but the best and the risk is transfered onto the bidding company. If you bid a price thats all you get paid and you deliver or else....
Sack most (if not all) those special advisors and consultants beloved of the current mob.

But to cause more debt to save you from debt.. it just seems wrong, its the lets put off the medicine until it wont affect me type of thinking. As everyone knows it wont be the ones who caused all this grief that will suffer.


Though taxes will go up thats certain and services will be cut that is also certain.

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HOLY [LIFTED]! Clegg's the cool kid fo sho!


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Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.


Why didn't anyone tell Greece!?! :P

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They can save over £100million by scrapping the Health & Safety Executive.

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We have three election threads, I'm getting confused about what to post and where.

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We have three election threads, I'm getting confused about what to post and where.


True story.


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We have three election threads, I'm getting confused about what to post and where.


Well I went to vote yesterday and there were, like, half a dozen or so boxes on the little piece of paper... imagine how I felt! I was like WTF OMG :shock: :lol:

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Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.


Why didn't anyone tell Greece!?! :P

Greece does not have control over its currency so cannot print it or devalue it like we can. ;)

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Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.


Why didn't anyone tell Greece!?! :P

Greece does not have control over its currency so cannot print it or devalue it like we can. ;)

But they do get to devalue everyone elses currency (well those in the Euro) :lol:

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Hmmmmm, interesting...........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/05/a_coalition_forged_by_a_sterli.html

Two conditions for a Lib Dem coalition govt.

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