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okenobi
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Most people in this country are, not just Labour supporters.
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Fri May 07, 2010 10:52 am |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but they probably realise the alternatives of a Tory government are even worse. While Gordon did not stop the banks he did at least sort out the crisis here at least temporarily. The Tory plans will make things worse.
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Fri May 07, 2010 12:22 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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changed for accuracy, as unless you have a time machine and can visit parallel dimensions, your viewpoint can only be a guess. Though for one and I do accept I may be totally wrong  the idea of being in massive debt and the only way out of it is to go into even more debt, does sound a bit ludicrous.
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Fri May 07, 2010 12:30 pm |
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jonlumb
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This is actually the point I was driving at, people are very keen to make broad sweeping statements with bugger all evidence other than their own bigotted opinion to back them up. Of course not all Labour voters are sheep, although like all parties it will have its fair share of them. At the end of the day, all we are doing is speculating on the future, no one can do that with any authority, so difinitive statements on that subject just make the issuer look like an imbecile.
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Fri May 07, 2010 12:35 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I was concerned about the deficit well before the financial crisis. Though now that we are in close to being in another recession, cutting spending now will just slow us down still further. With Europe about to fall back into a recession because of other worries it will only drag us down further. The US is about to fall back into a recession with housing going to fall even more. With the US banks inadequately reserved for further losses. Also government debt is unlike household debt and thinking of it as such is foolish. Governments can raise their incomes through either printing money or raising taxes unlike households. They can inflate their way out of debt if necessary. Households cannot do that.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:27 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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Or they can go trident.. cancel. Nuclear attack subs yes, nuclear boomers no. Id card scheme.. cancel, cancel, cancle cancel theres a few bob saved striaght away. Proper procurement in government contracts. No longer accept the lowest bid but the best and the risk is transfered onto the bidding company. If you bid a price thats all you get paid and you deliver or else.... Sack most (if not all) those special advisors and consultants beloved of the current mob. But to cause more debt to save you from debt.. it just seems wrong, its the lets put off the medicine until it wont affect me type of thinking. As everyone knows it wont be the ones who caused all this grief that will suffer. Though taxes will go up thats certain and services will be cut that is also certain.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:37 pm |
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okenobi
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HOLY [LIFTED]! Clegg's the cool kid fo sho!
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:39 pm |
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belchingmatt
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Why didn't anyone tell Greece!?! 
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:41 pm |
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adidan
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They can save over £100million by scrapping the Health & Safety Executive.
Waste of time.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:51 pm |
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belchingmatt
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We have three election threads, I'm getting confused about what to post and where.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:55 pm |
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okenobi
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John_Vella
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Well I went to vote yesterday and there were, like, half a dozen or so boxes on the little piece of paper... imagine how I felt! I was like WTF OMG 
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Fri May 07, 2010 2:52 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Greece does not have control over its currency so cannot print it or devalue it like we can. 
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Fri May 07, 2010 2:55 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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But they do get to devalue everyone elses currency (well those in the Euro) 
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Fri May 07, 2010 2:57 pm |
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okenobi
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Hmmmmm, interesting........... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/05/a_coalition_forged_by_a_sterli.htmlTwo conditions for a Lib Dem coalition govt. Fascinating. </Spock>
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