This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 488 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 ... 33  Next
Formula One Thread for 2010 
Author Message
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
Posts: 1657
Location: Ipswich
Fogmeister wrote:
Geiseric wrote:
Yep I watched the race and the forum after, my thoughts – Button needs to grow some balls imo, he really had the first corner after getting a better start than Hamilton and then he basically handed it back by breaking really early. Not sure if he is scared of causing a team mate pile up or what but if it had been the other way round Hamilton would have completed the move and gone into the corner first with no hesitation.

Yes but equally it is that kind of move that meant that Hamilton didn't finish the race whereas Button finished 4th.



You watch the reply; Button got a good car length or two on Hamilton and just surrenders it? Not comparable to the Webber/Hamilton incident imo.

Talking of the Webber/Hamilton incident - One thing I'm surprised at is this reference to Webber having the inside line which isn’t the racing line, granted he has the right to be there but Hamilton had passed him (just) and was on the racing line approaching the corner. He then turned slightly later so wouldn’t have passed the aprex in the normal way I assume to allow more braking distance for Mark, but Mark just steamed up the inside which meant he would have had to bring his car to a near stand still to turn into the aprex. Imo it's Mark going back to his old days of completely misjudging the situation which over the second half of the season we all thought he'd grown out of.

_________________
www.youtube.com/hyperviper34


Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:28 am
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 6580
Location: Getting there
Geiseric wrote:
Fogmeister wrote:
Geiseric wrote:
Yep I watched the race and the forum after, my thoughts – Button needs to grow some balls imo, he really had the first corner after getting a better start than Hamilton and then he basically handed it back by breaking really early. Not sure if he is scared of causing a team mate pile up or what but if it had been the other way round Hamilton would have completed the move and gone into the corner first with no hesitation.

Yes but equally it is that kind of move that meant that Hamilton didn't finish the race whereas Button finished 4th.



You watch the reply; Button got a good car length or two on Hamilton and just surrenders it? Not comparable to the Webber/Hamilton incident imo.

Ah, haven't watched the replay yet. Will have another look.

_________________
Oliver Foggin - iPhone Dev

JJW009 wrote:
The count will go up until they stop counting. That's the way counting works.


Doodle Sub!
Game Of Life

Image Image


Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:48 am
Profile WWW
Occasionally has a life

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:18 am
Posts: 385
Am I the only one who thinks that "throw yer toys out of the pram" Alonso needs to have his pole position start looked at ?

It doesn't ever seem to matter what side of the track he's on, clean or dirty, his first move always appears to be to shunt sideways into whoever is second on the grid.

I don't like that guy. No...... I really don't like him !


Last edited by PaulKey on Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:28 am, edited 1 time in total.



Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:18 am
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm
Posts: 6355
Location: IoW
I think Hamilton is the hardest charger on the grid - he would have braked super late and chucked it in, almost daring someone to match his effort. Button has a wise head on his shoulders, is usually a fast starter, and doesn't want to throw away the race on a first corner pile-up.

Hamilton tried it later on with Webber, who leads the championship and potentially has a lot to lose. So, maybe Hamilton thinks he'll pull out rather than risk a collision, but Webber is also a hard charger and came off best. Everyone then slags Hamilton for being impetuous, yet he has built his reputation by making those moves stick far more often than not.

Unfortunately, he hasn't made it stick at a crucial point in the season, and could end up out of the running if he doesn't find a balance. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Button finished the season with more points than Hamilton, although I now doubt that either of them will take the title.

_________________
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!


Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:30 am
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:23 pm
Posts: 638
Location: 3959 miles from the centre of the Earth - give or take a bit
I get the feeling that Hamilton is trying to use the Senna approach to driving - in an interview, Senna said that he would always go for a gap, knowing full well that if the other driver backed off, he'd do it every time. Otherwise, they'd collide and that would be it (remember Senna and Prost colliding at the beginning of the Japanese GP in 1990?). In this case it didn't work, but at least he tried. Singapore is one of the most boring circuits there is - calling the race processional would be kind.

_________________
i7 860 @ 3.5GHz, GTX275, 4GB DDR3


Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:36 am
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
Posts: 1657
Location: Ipswich
I think button showed Hamilton far too much respect but as Fogmeister pointed out - Button finish, Hamilton didn't.

_________________
www.youtube.com/hyperviper34


Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:24 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 am
Posts: 798
Location: land of the free, Bexhill-on-Sea
dogbert10 wrote:
I get the feeling that Hamilton is trying to use the Senna approach to driving - in an interview, Senna said that he would always go for a gap, knowing full well that if the other driver backed off, he'd do it every time. Otherwise, they'd collide and that would be it (remember Senna and Prost colliding at the beginning of the Japanese GP in 1990?). In this case it didn't work, but at least he tried. Singapore is one of the most boring circuits there is - calling the race processional would be kind.

I think thats why they call it a racing incident. By the time Hamilton braked for the corner he couldn't see Webber. Webber, however, could see all of Hamiltons car and still bumped it.
It's a tough sport and cannot be considered gentlemanly at any level.
Button has built a wise head, criticise a much as you like, he finished and scored points. Mclaren need to up their strategy game now. Often, it seems, they leave the car on track when the tyres are falling away badly, and any time lost through track position after a stop is trumped by poor lap times on baldies.


Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:15 am
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
Posts: 1657
Location: Ipswich
But button is behind Hamilton on points, so what does that tell you?

_________________
www.youtube.com/hyperviper34


Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:32 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 am
Posts: 798
Location: land of the free, Bexhill-on-Sea
Geiseric wrote:
But button is behind Hamilton on points, so what does that tell you?


I hold Hamilton in high regard but Button too. I was just making the case that you need to finish to score points.


Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:44 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
E. F. Benson wrote:
Geiseric wrote:
But button is behind Hamilton on points, so what does that tell you?

I hold Hamilton in high regard but Button too. I was just making the case that you need to finish to score points.

Point is surely that if Hamilton keeps cocking it up and Button doesn't, the situation will soon be reversed...


Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:37 pm
Profile
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
Posts: 1657
Location: Ipswich
E. F. Benson wrote:
Geiseric wrote:
But button is behind Hamilton on points, so what does that tell you?


I hold Hamilton in high regard but Button too. I was just making the case that you need to finish to score points.


Ditto on the respect part but the gap was huge, imo it's like the old Prost (Button) versus Senna (Hamilton) approach......

_________________
www.youtube.com/hyperviper34


Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:10 pm
Profile
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am
Posts: 7011
Location: Wiltshire
Well that was a wash out - literally. :roll:

And Hamilton had to change a gear box so 5 place penalty.

_________________
<input type="pickmeup" name="coffee" value="espresso" />


Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:16 pm
Profile WWW
Doesn't have much of a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:35 pm
Posts: 1657
Location: Ipswich
yup, thought Lee Mckenzie handled it well

_________________
www.youtube.com/hyperviper34


Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:59 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm
Posts: 6355
Location: IoW
Good, entertaining race, despite the dodgy TV coverage near the end.

Kobayashi really had a home field advantage. He was awesome and by far the most exciting driver to watch today.

_________________
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!


Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:18 am
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm
Posts: 5048
If I was in reach of Vettel I would quite happily snap that finger in two.

_________________
Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much.
jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.


Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:54 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.   [ 488 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 ... 33  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 46 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.