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Surely the B&B owners could have turned them away just because they could?

I am under the impression that if I went and bought a cheese sandwich down and Morrisons, I could be refused the purchase with no reason given.
If my impression is correct, could that not apply to this case?

You're correct, unless they did it because you're white, gay, a man etc...

But how would one prove that it was for one of those reasons? Then how would one defend oneself?


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Surely the B&B owners could have turned them away just because they could?

I am under the impression that if I went and bought a cheese sandwich down and Morrisons, I could be refused the purchase with no reason given.
If my impression is correct, could that not apply to this case?

You're correct, unless they did it because you're white, gay, a man etc...

But how would one prove that it was for one of those reasons? Then how would one defend oneself?


You can't - certainly as the proprietor of a licensed drinking premises, you don't have to serve anyone you don't want to, and you don't need to supply a reason.
Of course, if you do choose to supply a reason, you'd better be damn sure it's not 'because you are <insert sexuality of choice>', 'you are <insert race of choice>', 'you are <insert faith of choice>' because then that's discrimination.

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Surely the B&B owners could have turned them away just because they could?

I am under the impression that if I went and bought a cheese sandwich down and Morrisons, I could be refused the purchase with no reason given.
If my impression is correct, could that not apply to this case?

You're correct, unless they did it because you're white, gay, a man etc...

But how would one prove that it was for one of those reasons? Then how would one defend oneself?

Hence the court case and lawyers.

You're right, they could have just refused to give them a room without stating a reason.

I'm guessing they were told they couldn't have a double room but were offered a twin instead? Or something along those lines?

When it gets to the court it's up to the lawyers to determine what "really happened".

Without CCTV and sound covering the event there is no way of knowing what was said at the time.

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News CLICKY 25th Jan

I see the bigots are appealing.

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I see the bigots are appealing.

TBH I hope the case makes it all the way to the Supreme Court, we'll get a nice message and a precedent will be set then.

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I see the bigots are appealing.

TBH I hope the case makes it all the way to the Supreme Court, we'll get a nice message and a precedent will be set then.

Yes but a precedent has been set already. They are trying to overturn it.

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Yes but a precedent has been set already. They are trying to overturn it.

Binding precedents can only be set by the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court.

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Yes but a precedent has been set already. They are trying to overturn it.

Binding precedents can only be set by the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court.


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We are not the USA or some piffling other country god damn it!!! <shakes fist> plusit sounds so much better when they use to say the LAW Lords have presided over a case. Bring imagary of some epic fantasy type, with maybe a dragon in the background and a heroic Palidin waiting to enact the judgement. :lol: :lol:

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Yes but a precedent has been set already. They are trying to overturn it.

Binding precedents can only be set by the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court.


Bring back the Law Lords!!!!
We are not the USA or some piffling other country god damn it!!! <shakes fist> plusit sounds so much better when they use to say the LAW Lords have presided over a case. Bring imagary of some epic fantasy type, with maybe a dragon in the background and a heroic Palidin waiting to enact the judgement. :lol: :lol:

+1

It sounds so much better saying "The House of Lords ruled" rather than "The Supreme Court"... :roll:

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