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ChurchCat
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I don't think anyone said that apps were too cheap. I was just making the point that if you want to develop you may prefer to develop for a platform that pays. Then you might stand a chance of recouping the cost of all that development. I am still looking for figures on what an Android developer can expect to make on average. No joy as yet.  _________________A Mac user 
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ChurchCat
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More Apps to watch out for Monkey Jump 2
Sex Positions
President vs. Aliens
City Defrense
Baseball Superstars 2010http://www.talkandroid.com/24949-new-an ... ed-gemini/Only if side loaded though. _________________A Mac user
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ChurchCat
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Ooh, this looks interesting. http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/1/20/androi ... d-details/It is the spoken word capture that freaks me out a bit.  _________________A Mac user
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JJW009
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The primary rule of common sense applies when downloading and installing applications onto any device: Do you trust the developer?If you willingly install an application onto a device and give it permissions to do stuff, then it can do stuff. You only have the reputation of the developers to say that "stuff" is good rather than bad. Would you install software from "MallwareKing2011" on your Mac without any recommendation? I think not. Perhaps one answer is to stick to open-source software that can be peer-reviewed. For example, http://f-droid.org/repository/ gives the user a "market place" of software which is open-source; admittedly not much on it now but if embraced by the community it could take off. Since the source is open, you can read it yourself and check there's nobody spying on you. CC might not read all the code, but some geek somewhere will. *edit* - just installed the tricorder from that list. Love it  _________________jonbwfc's law: "In any forum thread someone will, no matter what the subject, mention Firefly." When you're feeling too silly for x404, youRwired.net
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koli
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A different perspective: I guess 9000 and 4000 daily downloads is a lot, right? I don't know what this says about iOS or Android but maybe it is worth mentioning.
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jonbwfc
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I think the notion of the 'noise level' on the Appstore being more than the Marketplace is definitely true - I've read the same sentiment in multiple places, both from app vendors that are selling huge numbers and those that aren't. However my assumption would be that, as the Marketplace catches up in simple numbers to Apple's offering, the signal/noise ratio is going to degrade to the same level. Is it just a function purely of population size that the app repository is hard to manage (on a personal 'just as a customer' basis), or is there some other aspect to it? Jon
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forquare1
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I wouldn't, but under the right circumstances my brother, sister or mother might... I've not played the game, but playing devils advocate these figures could indicate that in comparison with other and similar games on iOS, it's a load of rubbish. However, on Android it's top of the competition... Just a thought and I have no evidence to prove either way, just saying that one can't trust figures alone.
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forquare1
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I would tend to agree with that. I attended a number of talks by my head of department back in uni, he's developed a couple of small apps for the iPhone and gained around £1,000 from 59p sales over the course of around two years... He said that on the Apple App Store to make it, you've got to make it big, otherwise you'll be lost.
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koli
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I think this is where alternative android appstores come in (e.g. amazon). They will be closed, as in they will decide what they will sell and they will decide what apps will make it into their store. They will do their research on best apps so when I need a download let's say "tube map" I won't have to choose from 20 but maybe from 3, and they will be the best ones in that category, guaranteed to come without mallware.
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jonbwfc
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Yeah, but you'll have 6 different stores, all offering what they claim are the best 3. Unless one store gains significant traction over the rest, at which point what you've got is a curated model that isn't actually that different to the Appstore model, which Android advocates have always claimed is an affront against freedom and dignity... Jon
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bobbdobbs
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With freedom of choice comes the responsibility of that choice.
Apples model is the illusion of choice as they are the gatekeeper and decide on what can be offered regardless of quality.
Its the rerun of the OS "war". Google will end up the dominant supplier of the OS and Apple will slowly lose market share. Both companies will earn a shedload of money from thier approaches.
IMHO I dont think Apple will want to be the dominant player as I believe their business practices would cause them to suffer a world of pain if they ended up with a functional monopoly. As long as they can supply high end products (with a huge profit margin) that sells very well, it wont matter if they have 5,10 or 20 % of the market.
As said before Apple doesnt do cheap
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koli
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I don't know about you but I want 6 stores that would compete with each other. And how can they all claims that different 3 apps are the best?! "Closed" is not a bad thing if you have "opened" alternative as well. Again, you will have choice and you will go for what suits you best.
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jonbwfc
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OK, fine, How do you know which one's opinion is best on any given app subject? They may or they may not. If they all claim the same 3 are the best fair enough but what happens when they don't? Unless there are actually only 3 apps covering a particular topic, what the chances of them all agreeing? 'Choice' without the information to objectively make that choice is no use at all. Jon
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koli
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Answer to all three questions is the question: How do you know where to buy anything that YOU ever buy? Groceries, socks, a coat, an mp3, a TV, a car, a house?
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ChurchCat
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With the possible exceptions of the iMac and iPad. Both relatively inexpensive in their given form factor. _________________A Mac user
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