I'm with veato on this, although I wouldn't complain as i'd expect the food to be [LIFTED] from such an establishment anyway.

I think what you mean as a grill isn't its a salamander.

Well actually, it's the "Grill" setting in an Electric Oven, but it does essentially the same thing that does.

I also had to Wikipedia it to find out exactly what it was.

And also came across this:



Source

Which is what i would usually refer to as "grilling".

After reading around and discussing with my dad about the subject, what JJ seems to refer to i.e. using a Flattop Grill/Griddle is what i'd personally refer to as "Pan Fried" since it seems like you can create the same effect with a frying pan. My example being what Americans refer to as "Potstickers" or JJ, what i guess is similar to japanese "Gyoza": clicky. I've seen them referred to as both "Grilled" Dumplings and "Pan-fried" Dumplings, but IMO i'd say the latter was more accurate.

But as always, this is just my subjective opinion.

I'd just like to say how proud I am of you guys for having a vehement argument about what constitutes grilling.

lmao.

+ And on another side note:

I think the reason why i'd use the term "Pan Fried" specfically is obviously the use of a frying pan... now this sounds obvious, however in Chinese culture we obviously use a Wok for practically everything and as such, to use a (relatively) large flat pan for frying it needs further clarification. I don't know whether or not that since a flat frying pan is "standard" in Western cooking that the terms are different?

Also JJ,

If i'm correct in assuming that the Flattop Griddle/Grill produces the same effect as pan-frying something, then would you call an egg cooked on it a "fried egg" or a "grilled/griddled egg"? And vice versa, i.e. saying "grilled sausages" for pan-fried sausages. Just curious since i'd define as two completely separate things (god knows what a grilled egg would be like though).

I got a grilling the other day when I came home with lipstick on my cheek I had been round seeing my mate and his mum was visiting (try telling that to the wife)

Al

Tell her that if you wanted to cheat, the lipstick would've been on your cock, not your face?

I am going to write a Book , The Musician and His Laptop .
this damn laptop does not want to get fixed

having bought new monitor new 40euro cable and given a free 100 gig Hard drive the new monitor has caught fire , what is going on in the world .

+1

Just don't forget to kiss, (or at least shake hands) and make up when you're done arguing about grilling stuff.

Had a phone call at 08:45 asking if I want to attend an assessment day tomorrow. Brilliant, it would have been nice to be asked on Friday afternoon for a couple more days of preparation, especially as this one day I've had has mainly been stuck on a stuffy coach.

Why is the flex on an iron always 2" shorter than it needs to be, and why put a sensitive temperature dial in a position under the handle where it is most likely to be knocked?

Lost wallet over the weekend &*$£@
Cancelled cards
Now to get a new D/licence etc


What a pain

Smashed one of our Beer Glasses last night... one of our oldest and most favourite/used .

Can't even get it replaced since it was when companies bothered engraving the logo, these days they just put a laminate sticker-type thing .

D? cool, how long you been a bus driver?



a pane in the glass?

Well according to SWMBO I have been driving people around the bend for years