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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Rail fare rises of 13% 'may break government', campaigners warn http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/1 ... ation-2012I doubt that. The public will get angry but do little about it.
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Have they re-nationalised the rail service? Or am I missing something?
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:58 am |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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There are two primary types of train fares. Capped and uncapped. This is in the uncapped variety and the TOC's ( Train Operating Companies ) can do what they dam well please with them. 
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:23 am |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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& for many who work in london there is no option other than to change jobs
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:26 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Agreed but the problem is that wages outside London are much lower. They might save some of the costs but their income will fall much more.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:30 am |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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No, believe it or not we have "private" rail (fail?) companies, but the government spends more now through revenue protection grants and subsidies than it ever did on British Rail. Effectively, the taxpayer guarantees profitability. Nice setup there if you're a TOC.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:30 am |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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Sadly I'm one of them. 
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:19 pm |
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JohnSheridan
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:10 pm Posts: 1057
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Not neccesarily. I worked in City of London (by Lloyds of London building) and my rail fare was like £1200 per year from leafy Surrey. I decided to change jobs and ended up working within walking distance of my home for just slightly less money so I ended up better of financially and also quality of life improved.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:00 pm |
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dogbert10
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:23 pm Posts: 638 Location: 3959 miles from the centre of the Earth - give or take a bit
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You think that's bad? The EU want to scrap ass rail subsidies, which could cause rail fairs to increase by 50%. http://www.comparecarhire.co.uk/news/br ... 30319.html
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:23 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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When I was working as an accountant the wages outside London were half what I was making in the West End.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:34 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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The pertinent question then is : How much bigger were your bills?
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:21 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Not that much more. I was still way better off in London.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:47 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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You want to tell me why TOCs should get subsidies? We might as well re-nationalise the railways.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:04 pm |
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Amnesia10
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The original idea was to reduce the subsidies yet they have stayed high. We should scrap the subsidises and wait for the companies to fold and nationalise them. British Rail was reliable and cheap. All that we have done is created new multimillionaires who own the rolling stock, and have effectively sucked up all the subsidises.
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:08 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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Woah! take off those rose-tinted spectacles there my friend. BR was occasionally very poor, occasionally very good and mostly mediocre. In fact, I'd say the performances of private and public train management has been pretty much identical. Of course now it's costing us more and we have a ticket pricing structure that seems to have been designed by Kafka into the bargain. Overall I'd have a nationalised service back but let's not pretend it was some idyllic 'Railway Children' utopia. Of course that wasn't the intention of privatisation in the first place. Oh no. Jon
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