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Paul1965
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Looks like David Cameron wants to bring in a voluntary (?) version of non-military National Service for disaffected yoof as part of his attempt to mend broken Britain. I'm assuming there would be some kind of pressure or 'inducement' to join, otherwise I can't see any 16 year old signing up. More here.
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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You are either in education or have a job else you are in national service and if you have a police record you are in national service. Who needs them to sign up. 
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:24 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Military sign up? No. Chavs with guns - could you imagine the horror?
But nonmilitary signup sounds like a good idea. Although as above, it'd have to be enforced and legislated somehow to make sure people weren't pretending to enrolled.
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Amnesia10
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They could then sack the rest of the military will millions unemployed forced to do military service instead. They might need to use them. Who shall we invade?
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:47 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Down with this sort of thing.
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rustybucket
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Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5837
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Careful now 
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Amnesia10
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Glad to see that the Catholic Church are with us on this issue. 
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Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:11 pm |
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jonbwfc
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That would be an ecumenical matter.
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Amnesia10
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Welcome Father Jack. 
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pcernie
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Big Soc Army! 
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Amnesia10
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We have plenty of those already. Though they are usually tied to Football clubs. They clearly train each week over the winter. Looking forward to overseas operations under the national banners. 
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big_D
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Germany scrapped conscription last year.
Every male had to do a years service, once they leave full time education. Those that either were too ill to serve (disabilities, asthma etc.) did social service instead (working as an ambulance crew, porters in hospitals, working in nursing homes or for charitable concerns etc.).
Females could volunteer to do it.
Now it is purely voluntary, I'm not sure it is a good move, to be honest.
Those serving would never been posted abroad to a trouble spot, that was just for regulars. I think it taught a lot of them a certain amount of discipline and team work, which readies them for the outside world.
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MrStevenRogers
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you need the cooperation of the population for NS to work there will be no population cooperation at this level
this is war, get used to it ...
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james016
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I was told long ago that if something is voluntary or optional, people won't bother with it.
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jonbwfc
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Depends on the details doesn't it? For example, there are quite a lot of 16-18 year olds who will do pretty much anything to get away from their parents. If the deal included being put up and fed, even in barrack style accommodation (or low grade student halls level stuff) then I'd imagine a fair number of teens would jump at it.
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