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SAughton
Dennis Magazines
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:33 am Posts: 125 Location: Ober-Ohringen, Switzerland
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My word was “horrible”, but same sentiment. forquare1, have you never heard of folders? Or the bookmarks menu? And surely auto-completion makes most of those redundant.
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:08 am |
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5150 Location: /dev/tty0
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It's the way I work, I can see what I want and access them with one click, I can name them what I want and can forget the horrid URL underneath. Menus and folders add clicks and mean that I need to know which folder to click in to, auto-completion means I need to know the url...Some of those links are coming up to ten years old, I have no idea what the URL is... I must admit that is an old picture and I currently only have two lines, and about 95% of the links I use on a daily basis, a few others less so but are there to remind me to visit various places...
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:29 am |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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howto Bring back the old progress bar … Unfortunately, the new spinning progress indicator doesn't give you a good idea of how far the page has loaded. To bring back the old style, you have to use both of the following commands. defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool FALSE This changes the progress indicator to a blue pie chart. To get the blue bar, now use the following command: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool FALSE Repeat both commands with TRUE at the end to go back to the new style.
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:15 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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Howto Restore the old style tabs … One of the biggest changes visually is the new tabs, located along the top of the window. If you aren't a fan of this, a simple Terminal command will move them back to the old position. Just open up Terminal (in Applications/Utilities) and paste in the following line: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool FALSE To bring back the new tabs on top, just repeat the command with TRUE at the end. You will need to restart Safari for changes to take effect. in FF i use 'tab sidebar' with preview enabled i can see about 4 'tabs' with preview disabled i can see about '15' tabs no tab bar at the top or the bottom of the screen, just the way i like it …
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:22 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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So, I've cleared the registry of all mentions of Safari, deleted all the configuration files etc. and I have re-installed it on the Windows XP machine... I'll see if it was something hanging over from the previous versions.... Interestingly, it seems to have some sponsored links for the Top Sites, if it is a fresh install! I have: - Apple.com (not really a surprise)
- Yahoo Germany portal (didn't even know it existed).
- Google Maps (never been there with this machine)
- Google YouTube
- Wikipedia Germany
- n-tv.de (24 hours television news channel home page.
- eBay (I've never visited fleabay from this machine)
- faz.net (Major German newspaper)
- amazon.de
- süddeutsche.de (another major German newspaper)
- flickr
- Expedia.de
So it looks like they have signed up with some localised partners for each region. Anybody else got examples of Apple supplied Top Sites?
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:34 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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 |  |  |  | big_D wrote: So, I've cleared the registry of all mentions of Safari, deleted all the configuration files etc. and I have re-installed it on the Windows XP machine... I'll see if it was something hanging over from the previous versions.... Interestingly, it seems to have some sponsored links for the Top Sites, if it is a fresh install! I have: - Apple.com (not really a surprise)
- Yahoo Germany portal (didn't even know it existed).
- Google Maps (never been there with this machine)
- Google YouTube
- Wikipedia Germany
- n-tv.de (24 hours television news channel home page.
- eBay (I've never visited fleabay from this machine)
- faz.net (Major German newspaper)
- amazon.de
- süddeutsche.de (another major German newspaper)
- flickr
- Expedia.de
So it looks like they have signed up with some localised partners for each region. Anybody else got examples of Apple supplied Top Sites? |  |  |  |  |
same as yours and hell on wheels to get rid of let alone disable the damn thing …
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:41 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Been using it since the re-install and it hasn't crashed yet (crosses fingers). I've been through about 20 tabs - it used to crash after 5 or 6. So it might have been some random debris from the beta hanging around and causing problems.
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:46 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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i tried a clean install (twice) but the cache for 'top tips' is hidden in /var but no way (as yet) to disable, even via terminal, the whole of this in safari if i want this i should be able to enable it but as of yet no way to completely disable it …
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:51 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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(fingers crossed) Safari has been running for an hour now and has visited a over 70 pages and it hasn't crashed yet...
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:30 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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are all the subscribed 'top tips' loading even in the background with preview disabled …
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:38 pm |
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widge14
Has a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 4:44 pm Posts: 15 Location: Monmouth (S.Wales)
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 |  |  |  | MrStevenRogers wrote: Howto Restore the old style tabs … One of the biggest changes visually is the new tabs, located along the top of the window. If you aren't a fan of this, a simple Terminal command will move them back to the old position. Just open up Terminal (in Applications/Utilities) and paste in the following line: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool FALSE To bring back the new tabs on top, just repeat the command with TRUE at the end. You will need to restart Safari for changes to take effect. in FF i use 'tab sidebar' with preview enabled i can see about 4 'tabs' with preview disabled i can see about '15' tabs no tab bar at the top or the bottom of the screen, just the way i like it … |  |  |  |  |
The terminal command you have given for tabs on top does not work. Hopefully somebody will come up with a solution soon.
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:19 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Hmm, when Safari is running, Windows stops responding - mouse moves, but you can't click anything and anything typed appears up to 10 seconds later - not nice when you are working on a 600 page document!
Close Safari and everything returns to normal.
That is with a site displayed with no JavaScript and no Flash etc. CPU usage during this time is 0%, but the computer doesn't respond.
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:01 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Be interesting to see what background activity it's getting up to Dave. Is there an events log, process reporty type thing you could check out?
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:49 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Used it all day yesterday on my XP machine. A few occassional hang-ups, but it ran pretty well and didn't crash.
Not sure it is doing anything in the background - there is NO activity. Feels like the whole OS was put into a wait state.
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:29 am |
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timark_uk
Moderator
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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I found this out last night too. My mate wanted the tabs putting back on top of Safari 4 and that hack failed. We even tried substituting yes/no for the true/false and that also didn't work. (8+( Mark
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:03 am |
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