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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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I saw this and thought it may be an interesting article to add to the mix here. http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/2 ... profiling/
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:42 pm |
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 pm Posts: 5071 Location: Manchester
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Yeah. No. Right wing government, yes, but hey, we voted them in.
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:40 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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* Waits patiently for the comment saying "Well I didn't vote for them." *
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:56 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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It's very badly argued, containing many blunders. It contains sheer nonsenses like... If there's any part of it that deserves to be taken seriously please quote away.
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:38 pm |
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Amnesia10
Legend
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Unfortunately I voted Liberal. Though that candidate lost to a Tory.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:46 am |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Load of bollocks if you ask me.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:23 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I did think that the traditions aspect might be wrong. There is a growing movement in the US towards domesticity, and more home skills rather than buying in. Now that would be traditional but I think that many are doing it for financial reasons, as well as health reasons. The same is true here. The horse meat scandal has meat a resurgence in home mincing and a shift away from corporate suppliers to local butchers. I would not say that it would fit the idea of traditionalism.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:45 am |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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In the grand scheme of whether or not we are drifting towards a cult of personal renewal through obedience to a violent state, I'm not convinced a 3% increase in the number of people who are bored enough to mince their own burger meat is all that relevant.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:50 am |
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Alexgadgetman
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:56 pm Posts: 306
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This article is a load of tosh, it merely shows that the population of the UK is moving further and further towards being a bunch of la-de-da nincompoops who have mush where their brain should be. Idiotic things like: Guess what, it's 2013, we are part of the EU, so lets do some minor calculations and considerations and deduce that the VAST majority of illegal immigrants in the UK are NOT white! God forbid we should offend the bunch of self-righteous socialists who plague society with their continuous prattle about how discriminating against any and everything is wrong. Personally, I don't really care if immigrants want to come to the UK (providing they add something to society, *cough*Australia*cough*), it doesn't even come into the argument, but what is the point in having a campaign to catch immigrants if you target the set of people who are 100x more likely to be legally here as well. I came through Manchester airport (yesterday) and got selected by a random machine to have a pat-down. I don't have a problem with this, except from one minor thing, as the machine is, presumably, random - what happens when an Iranian wearing size 25 shoes and a puffer jacket walks through and its 30 degrees outside, do we ignore him to make society feel better about itself? Wonderful of the author to forget the EU migrants. Not as though there are many of those around or anything.... The number of people entering the UK is out of control, are there enough jobs for everyone in the country? No? Then why do we need more people, are we feeling lacking in the population department? Once again a misconception of racism, its just called informed marketing. No point dumping the van in the countryside/affluent white areas. Well, if according to his statement about how targeting non-white areas for immigration campaigns was wrong and we should also examine white people's credentials, then white people can also be illegal immigrants. So surely pictures of illegal immigrants will also include white people, therefore race doesn't come into it. Oh wait.... So many left wing morons these days, all hopping on the bandwagon and preaching nonsense. One of the reasons the country is in an economic mess is because it can't do anything without someone becoming offended and being afforded an idiotic amount of rights (ie fracking debate, sure rehouse people if you must, but a job is a job, and a pound is a pound). /rant out.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:26 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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The fundamental fallacy in the 'immigration is out of control' argument is that nobody actually knows. We simply have no idea how many people are leaving and entering the UK. Until we get even a vaguely reliable estimate of that, any talk about 'levels of immigration' are frankly the blink leading the blind, regardless of which direction we're supposedly going in.
Arguing about immigration when there are no hard facts available is an act of stupidity. As the saying goes, the plural of anecdote is not 'evidence'.
Aside from anything else, when considering the notion of whether the UK is becoming more repressively right wing, immigration is an utterly irrelevant issue. The important issue is what laws the government are bringing in and how they affect our society in terms of personal freedoms and rights. The laws that apply here right now matter to all of us right now, regardless of where you were born.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:36 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Surely by definition it's not in control then?
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:54 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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No, it's just means that it's apparently not being recorded for some reason.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:14 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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How can you be in control of something that you don't know about?
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:15 pm |
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ProfessorF
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Have you met the government?
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:16 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Precisely.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:15 pm |
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