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Unfortunately the lower pay is becoming the norm for any one who gets a new job.

Yep, although in my last job, none of us had had a pay rise for 5 or 6 years, looking back it was still above most of the similar experienced design jobs being advertised at the moment. The only well paid areas in design at the moment seem to be web developers (in particular, PHP and Responsive Design) iOS or Android developers and Motion Graphics (After Effects) - none of which I have experience of sadly.

Just happy I've managed to get something to be honest! Will look into training courses to learn some of the above so I'm ready for the next move. Couldn't really justify spending £100s on courses when I was out of work.
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Congratulations as well.

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I would look into the idea of training for app development especially if it can be linked to websites, which I see as an area that might be very valuable at some point. If you see a way that your new employer could benefit from it, it could be the basis of a reason for them to fund your training. Do it slowly so the costs are not too high and it might be easier for them to accept.

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Good lick Steve. Great to hear you are back working again. Having been twice made redundant, I know your situation. As to pay, I'm earning the same I was in 2008 and that is a third less than I was on in 2002.

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Amnesia10 wrote:
Unfortunately the lower pay is becoming the norm for any one who gets a new job.

Yep, although in my last job, none of us had had a pay rise for 5 or 6 years, looking back it was still above most of the similar experienced design jobs being advertised at the moment. The only well paid areas in design at the moment seem to be web developers (in particular, PHP and Responsive Design) iOS or Android developers and Motion Graphics (After Effects) - none of which I have experience of sadly.

Just happy I've managed to get something to be honest! Will look into training courses to learn some of the above so I'm ready for the next move. Couldn't really justify spending £100s on courses when I was out of work.
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Congratulations as well.

Thanks!


Can your new job help with training if they think it'll benefit them? Once you've got your feet under the table I mean.

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In-depth and surprisingly circumspect analysis of MIllband's conference speech from The Guardian. Less about the speech itself more about the theory of political campaigning, the different effect of pushing 'ideas' vs 'policies' in politics, the death of party politics in the 21st century and other such 'meta' stuff. Worth a read if you're interested in political speech writing as an art and science, rather than if you particularly care what Ed was talking about.


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Indeed. I think the biggest problem Labour will face at the next election is his total lack of charisma.

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Indeed. I think the biggest problem Labour will face at the next election is his total lack of charisma.

Yep. Which, I fear, will hand another term to David Cameron and his posh boys club.

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Mushroom and tarragon soup downstairs and I brought in salad today. What to do?

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Mushroom and tarragon soup downstairs and I brought in salad today. What to do?

Bin both and get yourself down to the local burger van.

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Mushroom and tarragon soup downstairs and I brought in salad today. What to do?

Bin both and get yourself down to the local burger van.

At the risk of controversy, I agree with Lev.

Soup != food
Salad = garnish

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oceanicitl wrote:
Mushroom and tarragon soup downstairs and I brought in salad today. What to do?

Bin both and get yourself down to the local burger van.

At the risk of controversy, I agree with Lev.

Soup != food
Salad = garnish

Only if you're doing it wrong.

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I made do with a couple of samples and had half a baguette with my salad

Full now :)

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Soup != food
Salad = garnish

Arggghhhhhh. I'm agreeing with you again. :x

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Indeed. I think the biggest problem Labour will face at the next election is his total lack of charisma.

Yep. Which, I fear, will hand another term to David Cameron and his posh boys club.

Unfortunately I would have no faith in Ed's brother. The party moved too far to the right in my opinion.

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