Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Microsoft CEO says new PC designs cooler than Apple 
Author Message
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
clicky
:lol:
As MS has no control on how the OEM's build there systems I think Monkey boy, has been sniffing the laughing gas again.

Quote:
In a bullish presentation to financial analysts today, Steve Ballmer promised Windows 7 PCs that would 'overturn the conventional wisdom that Apple has the coolest hardware'.


Though this comment clearly shows the differing strategies Apple and MS have:

Quote:
"We don't believe in coming to market like Apple - high margin, high quality, high price. We believe in high volume and low price," Ballmer told the Microsoft Financial Analyst Meeting. "Investors are pushing us to spend more money on this marketing."

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:12 am
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am
Posts: 188
Reply with quote
Microsoft really doesn't seem to understand what business it is in. Its commercials and Uncle Fester's comments give the impression Microsoft believes its a hardware company. No wonder it seems a little aimless and its financials are nothing to write home about.

But I did like this bit:

Quote:
"We don't believe in coming to market like Apple - high margin, high quality, high price. We believe in high volume and low price," Ballmer told the Microsoft Financial Analyst Meeting."


No one could ever accuse MS of coming to market with high-quality products, and it seems Uncle Fester agrees.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:56 am
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:54 am
Posts: 232
Location: Alfreton, Derbyshire
Reply with quote
why dont apple sell there os???


Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:25 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm
Posts: 10691
Location: Bramsche
Reply with quote
boothy_1993 wrote:
why dont apple sell there os???

Because they are one of the last of the "traditional" hardware companies in the PC business that provide a bespoke operating system for their computers.

The rest all jumped ship in the 80s and early 90s and started shipping MS-DOS and Windows, instead of investing time, effort and money in developing their own operating systems (well, some started doing that in the 70s with CP/M, but that is a story for another time).

Today, because Microsoft sell the operating system that a majority of machines use, people tend to assume that all operating systems should be sold independently of hardware.

_________________
"Do you know what this is? Hmm? No, I can see you do not. You have that vacant look in your eyes, which says hold my head to your ear, you will hear the sea!" - Londo Molari

Executive Producer No Agenda Show 246


Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:31 am
Profile ICQ
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 119
Location: West Wales
Reply with quote
Although MS don't make PC's most of its partners do. Some PC makers are starting to emphasise the kind of aesthetic appeal that recent Apple PC's have displayed.
Let's face it you don't have to be too smart to figure-out that if people will pay £200+ over the odds for a pretty case that costs £10 to make in a Chinese sweatshop, your business will be more profitable. Even the average CEO should be able to work that one out....

Just look at Apple's dominance of the £1000+ market. Fan-persons will bray about OSX, but said fan-people aside nobody really gives a 4X about OSX, Windoze or LINUX, anymore than most people care about Chrome, Firefox or IE.
Its the style that counts, trust me.

Sony have dipped the odd toe into this market, but have never really delivered anything special. Given that Apple are now simply OEMing using Intel's products (like most other makers) the market is ripe for a brand like B&O to come in with all that Scandawegian style at a premium price....


Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:51 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am
Posts: 188
Reply with quote
ethelredalready wrote:
the market is ripe for a brand like B&O to come in with all that Scandawegian style at a premium price....


Still running Windows tho, so it would be a dog no-one wants to give a home to, just like the other "premium" computers that run Windows. Even B&O can't polish that turd.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:54 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 119
Location: West Wales
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
ethelredalready wrote:
the market is ripe for a brand like B&O to come in with all that Scandawegian style at a premium price....


Still running Windows tho, so it would be a dog no-one wants to give a home to, just like the other "premium" computers that run Windows. Even B&O can't polish that turd.



I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave earlier....


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:07 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
ethelredalready wrote:
the market is ripe for a brand like B&O to come in with all that Scandawegian style at a premium price....


Still running Windows tho, so it would be a dog no-one wants to give a home to, just like the other "premium" computers that run Windows. Even B&O can't polish that turd.


apart from the 8 million people who download the W7 RC, thats a lot of homes with polished turds and the

clicky
Quote:
Analysts IDC predict that some 177 million copies of the operating system will be in place by the end of 2010, 50 million of which will be in Europe. The firm estimates that products and services surrounding Windows 7 will generate $320bn (£195bn).


thats one hell of a lot of turds. I bet those dogs will be tired. :lol:
So its going to be a totaly failure, well except for the turd polishers. :lol:

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:08 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am
Posts: 188
Reply with quote
ethelredalready wrote:
I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave earlier....


I saw it. You're wrong.

bobbdobbs wrote:
apart from the 8 million people who download the W7 RC


And how many of those are running on "premium" PCs, which is the topic at hand. Do try to keep up bobs.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:11 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
ethelredalready wrote:
I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave earlier....


I saw it. You're wrong.

bobbdobbs wrote:
apart from the 8 million people who download the W7 RC


And how many of those are running on "premium" PCs, which is the topic at hand. Do try to keep up bobs.


Probably a suprisingly large amount. As a lot of those would be enthusiasts and nerds. Who are more likely to have "premium" class computers. Although a fair amount of those will be self build, so will definatley have the high price and depending on thier ability maybe high quality

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:24 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am
Posts: 188
Reply with quote
bobbdobbs wrote:
Probably a suprisingly large amount. As a lot of those would be enthusiasts and nerds. Who are more likely to have "premium" class computers. Although a fair amount of those will be self build, so will definatley have the high price and depending on thier ability maybe high quality


Sorry we're not talking about the roll-your-own variety. In the real computer world, people just don't seem to buy expensive PCs running Windows. Strange, but apparently true.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:32 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 119
Location: West Wales
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
Probably a suprisingly large amount. As a lot of those would be enthusiasts and nerds. Who are more likely to have "premium" class computers. Although a fair amount of those will be self build, so will definatley have the high price and depending on thier ability maybe high quality


Sorry we're not talking about the roll-your-own variety. In the real computer world, people just don't seem to buy expensive PCs running Windows. Strange, but apparently true.


One hates to disagree, but the "premium" market I was talking about is almost entirely Laptops\Notebooks. I probably failed to make that clear in my first post.
Apple has virtually no presence at all in the serious "premium desktop\workstation" marketplace, aside from a few diehards in the publishing and "creative" businesses. There are very large numbers of "Pee Cees" sold at and above £1000 pe runit for scientific, graphics and numerical modelling purposes and as Games machines. Virtually none of them are Apples.

It may make you feel comfortable to dismiss Windowsfrom some self-satisfied Parnassian mountain top, but most people these days simply buy a PC irrespective of the O/S. Apple buyers rate prettiness highly the rest of us don't.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:46 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
Probably a suprisingly large amount. As a lot of those would be enthusiasts and nerds. Who are more likely to have "premium" class computers. Although a fair amount of those will be self build, so will definatley have the high price and depending on thier ability maybe high quality


Sorry we're not talking about the roll-your-own variety. In the real computer world, people just don't seem to buy expensive PCs running Windows. Strange, but apparently true.

In the real computing world people get the systems required to do the job. Otherwise your just paying for "flashness" regardless of who made it etc.

Monkey boy has no chance of having "cool" windows based PC's. The computer part may look cool but the OS Winwhatever is never going to be "cool".

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:57 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:58 am
Posts: 188
Reply with quote
ethelredalready wrote:
One hates to disagree, but the "premium" market I was talking about is almost entirely Laptops\Notebooks. I probably failed to make that clear in my first post.


You didn't need to, I assumed you were talking about laptops. Either way, the NPD report - for what it's worth - has the vast majority of people who buy computers costing in excess of $1000 buying them from Apple. Make of that what you will.

ethelredalready wrote:
Apple buyers rate prettiness highly the rest of us don't.


Oh I do love a tired cliche. But if ugliness is your thing, be my guest. I hear Ms Winehouse is single.


Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:00 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 5490
Location: just behind you!
Reply with quote
rubicon wrote:
ethelredalready wrote:
One hates to disagree, but the "premium" market I was talking about is almost entirely Laptops\Notebooks. I probably failed to make that clear in my first post.


You didn't need to, I assumed you were talking about laptops. Either way, the NPD report - for what it's worth - has the vast majority of people who buy computers costing in excess of $1000 buying them from Apple. Make of that what you will.



The NPD report is US centric and is only of value in the US retail market. To extrapolate to the worldwide market would be false. It may in fact be a reflection of the world market or may not.

_________________
johnwbfc wrote:
I care not which way round it is as long as at some point some sort of semi-naked wrestling is involved.

Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but the opportunity to legally kill someone with a giant dildo does not happen every day.

Finally joined Flickr


Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:09 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.